<p>I am not sure what is the question? If you like and appreciate your job, why are you trying to change it? Sorry, confused!</p>
<p>OP - As others have pointed out, your Boss’ superiors already know about your Boss. You have NOTHING to gain by a vain attempt to “rock the boat.” Er, sorry, “improve the organization.”</p>
<p>MKM - I sympathize. But IMHO you’re wishing for a world that doesn’t exist. There were many warnings over many years about Bernie Madoff’s ongoing fraud … all ignored by higher powers. Higher powers only act when it’s in THEIR interests to do so.</p>
<p>WHY WHY WHY would you want to complain about your boss’s competence, work ethic, or other attributes? You are being paid to do your job. You not being paid or asked to make management decisions at least two levels above your position. If you have feelings that upper management should conform to your opinions, then you will be disappointed and you will probably pay for you over zealous attitude.</p>
<p>Not to make light of the situation, but I couldn’t help but think of Michael Scott of “The Office” after reading the OP…
I agree it must be very frustrating to work with this man! I also think it’s a sticky situation, though, and you should be careful.</p>
<p>I think every office has one of these guys/gals, unless it is really small. While it is an admirable thing to want to save the company money etc., I can’t help but think that it has a high probability of backfiring on you. I don’t really trust things to be kept confidential but that is maybe a sensitivity of mine. I don’t like working with people who are slackers, but if you are lower on the totem pole, I really don’t see a viable way for you to get at this. One other thing, I do think that sometimes people who complain about other people (whether rightly or wrongly) are seen in a bad light themselves. Of course, in a different situation, eg, if any theft of funds, embezzlement, etc is involved, that is another story - of course in that case “Proof” is essential.</p>
<p>NewHope, I agree–that world unfortunately doesn’t exist. I don’t think she (OP) should do anything to put her job in jeopardy…but these situations are soooo frustrating. One likes to think that eventually these people “pay the piper”…</p>
<p>I think is the boss’s superiors who are responsible for dealing with his shortcomings , not his employees. There is something very distasteful about an employee going over the bosses head and complaining about him in this way (barring anything illegal or unethical of course - that would be a different story). If he is that incompetent the superiors will already have some idea unless they are completely incompetent themselves. They may be aware but unwilling to do anything at this point, or making plans to do something. Either way such an action from someone who reports to the person is likely to lead to them regarding her with some mistrust (as I said, unless there were something illegal). Maybe my strong feelings on this come from a woman I used to work with who was the biggest back stabber i ever met. She was very buddy buddy with one of her bosses and then stabbed him the back. She was despised and mistrusted by everyone except the upcoming stabbee who had no clue. She herself was actually totally incompetent but thought she was better than she was and really resented the many people who, for good reason, got promoted over her. </p>
<p>I was a supervisor in a large oil company several years ago and was asked by a manager to basically spy on another supervisor, a peer of mine, that they wanted to sack. He admittedly wasn’t particularly competent but I was appalled that they had asked me and flat out told them so. It was their responsibility to gather whatever information they needed just as I would have to gather the information on any of my subordinates I had issues with, rather than asking my other employees to do it. After they thought about it they agreed and, realizing how much they would not like their peers to do the same to them, apologized for suggesting it. They did manage to gather the required information without any input from me. </p>
<p>I would suggest the OP do her own job to the very best of her abilities and leave supervising her boss to his bosses.</p>
<p>If those in charge of your boss allow him to do less than stellar work, who are you to tell them they aren’t doing their job? Guess it sounds a bit harsh, but that’s reality. It’s not your job to evaluate this man, so do your job and let those who supervise him do their job. </p>
<p>In effect, you’d be saying your boss isn’t doing his job very well AND whoever supervises him isn’t doing his/her job very well either! Seems you’d be criticizing the boss’s boss as much as you’d be criticizing the boss himself. In all probability, they agree with you. But then again, maybe they think he’s doing a fine job or maybe,he has incriminating photos of his supervisor! ;-)</p>
<p>Either way, don’t mention it to others within your company.</p>
<p>It amazes me that someone can do so little in today’s job market. You’d think any corporation by now would have made sure that everyone was working themselves nearly to death.</p>
<p>I hate slackers, goof-offs, etc. But I agree that you can’t successfully say anything.</p>
<p>One outfit I worked with had a nickname for one guy - “no-op”. Computer people may get this ;)</p>
<p>^ “no-op” Too Funny! The VP for one company I worked for had a similar nickname “no-ne” referring to his approach to decision-making.</p>