What would you if it were you?

Self-driving cars scare the hell out of me. But we don’t need to worry quite yet. I read somewhere they still have many issues. One of the issues was that google map needed to be upgraded to have far more details than what they have now. Apparently, near google headquarters they have it in great details and self-driving cars are possible. That’s one of the simpler issue they had. More complex issue they cited was that drivers sometimes have to make a judgemental call that is hard to automate.

BB, that’s an interesting link.

Well, that’s a Wiki take on it. So thread with caution. Shepardize. :wink: It is probably still “good law,” as they say. :slight_smile:

Here’s an NPR article:

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/05/30/317074394/drone-wars-who-owns-the-air

"Apparently, near google headquarters they have it in great details and self-driving cars are possible. "

In SV and around SF, you should follow Google maps religiously. If the map tells you to take a side road, do take the side road. :slight_smile:

Someone catch me up here:

Drone is shot down and damaged.
Shooter claims it flew low.
Flyer claims it flew high.
Shooter used limited range BBs.
If drone was flying high, how could those BBs have reached it enough to damage it so severely?

Just wondering…

I’m not actually sure what defines BB but buckshot is a casing full of several small metal balls, yes.

Supposedly a pellet hit a propeller. Beats me.

cxl

My goodness!
My two cents – a drone is not a living breathing organism. It has no “right to life”. It is controlled by humans – at least most are at this point.
If the owner of any Drone flying over my property cannot be easily identified , located and given a terse warning to keep their piece of equipment away from my property, I would have no second thoughts about either confiscating it or destroying it.
Fair warning…

^My thoughts exactly. If you don’t like your drone shot down, fly it over the public space.

Buckshots have a bigger pellets than birdshots.

Apparently some idiot flying a drone flew it to within 100 ft or so of a plane landing at JFK, and close to another as well. Could have caused a crash and major loss of life. Happened yesterday, or this morning.

yes, there were 2. Reported upthread.

Of course there will be legitimate uses for drones, no one is saying we should ban drones. However, if they use drones to inspect power lines (for example, after a storm, it might be easier to send drones to get an idea of how bad damage is), they likely also will notify people about it, the way they do when they are going to cut down trees. Commercial users generally would also have licenses to do so and would be covered by liability insurance if they caused damage doing what they do. There is both a legitimate reason for the use and accountability. If Amazon (God forbid) gets permission to use drones, it will be licensed as well.

Someone mentioned that aircraft and helicopters fly over property, which is correct, but there are also FAA regulations that establish floors on altitude and the paths those aircraft take. If a helicopter drops down to treetop level over your property, unless they are law enforcement looking at something odd, or some other purpose, the pilot can be fined, lose his license and or go to jail for doing so, so could a plane pilot. The punk teenager looking for an open window to peep into, or looking to drop down on traffic thinking it would be funny to scare people, today has no such law regulating it. The argument that drones are toys, or they pose no threat, is idiotic, and the idea that government has no right to regulate them, which I have heard, is absurd. Put it this way, the airwaves in the US are technically public, yet you don’t have the right to broadcast anyway you want to. There is low power transmission, under part 15, that allows for things like limited distance radio control (drones fall under that with their transmitters), but if you abuse that, you can get in trouble. Other forms of transmission are licensed, to prevent problems.

Drones also can be used to deliver payloads, some of the bigger ones you can buy for home use can carry incendiary devices or some form of explosives and do some real damage. Right now there really isn’t any tracking, you could walk into a store selling these things, pay cash, and have something pretty untraceable.

Unfortunately, with our broken legal system and with so called ‘libertarians’ claiming any government regulation is evil, that people should be allowed to do what they want, I am not holding my breath. Congress it seems can’t even decide what brand of coffee to have in chamber and whether toilet paper in the restrooms should be over the top or hanging down, so we expect action on this? What amazes me is the FAA hasn’t acted on this and issued regulations for safety, and also in extending penalties for illegally flying in air traffic lanes to drones, they way they already exist for model airplanes and rockets.

I haven’t read this thread, but my next door neighbor got a drone for Christmas. He was showing it to us today and mentioned it had a camera. We are friendly with this neighbor, so a bit unsure what to do here. I just came down to the kitchen and the drone is less that a foot off my window and hovered there for a few minutes. You can hear the drone and it has light on it, which is why I looked out. I realize my windows don’t have shades on them, but he had this in my yard, up against my house.

I guess I will say something sarcastic to him tomorrow like, “Did you see anything interested why looking in my house?” If he keeps it flying low in my yard, I will have to come up with something better, especially since I have been know to walk around with just a towel on after a shower!!

Thank goodness the thing has lights and is noisy, so you knew that the bugger was near your window. Fingers crossed that was an isolated incident. What you suggested is probably the best way to handle things if you are on friendly terms. I am not a lawyer, so this is just my layperson recommendation: tell the neighbor that you do NOT give him permission to fly his drone over your property and film your property, especially inside the house. This way, if things go south, he cannot claim that you consented to his filming.

If the situation repeats, the next step would be talking to the cops. I am pretty sure that filming inside certain areas of someone’s residence is illegal, curtains or not. There are still places on private property where one can expect privacy.

https://verdict.justia.com/2014/06/26/drones-new-peeping-toms

That is so creepy.

Something needs to be done about drones. Beyond privacy, I’m thinking of the one that crashed inches from the skier.

Or this one:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/us/us-open-tennis-drone-arrest/

Sadly, the guy who tried to film inside hospital exam rooms through tinted windows got acquitted of a misdemeanor charge.

Wow, this is creepy:

http://abc11.com/news/sex-offender-arrested-for-flying-drone-near-state-fair/1045868/

A registered sex offender flying his drone near the state fairgrounds…

Snowball, I would mention to your neighbor that if his drone is over .55 lb, he can get into trouble if he fails to register it.

http://wgntv.com/2015/12/23/get-a-drone-for-christmas-heres-an-overview-of-the-rules-for-flying-it/

Anyone who is caught using drone to invade privacy must be registered as sex offender. :slight_smile:

BB, his drone is registered, or so he said. According to him, you can not even turned them on without being registered with the FAA.

I don’t know snowball, but I think I would have immediately gone to the neighbor’s house and had a really, really unpleasant conversation. And I would take my phone with me and let him know I was recording the conversation, you know, kind of like how his drone was recording you through your window without your permission. And if his drone visited my property one more time, I would hunt it down and kill it.