<p>[Michael</a> Roth: What’s a Liberal Arts Education Good For?](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>What's a Liberal Arts Education Good For? | HuffPost Latest News)</p>
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<p>[Michael</a> Roth: What’s a Liberal Arts Education Good For?](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>What's a Liberal Arts Education Good For? | HuffPost Latest News)</p>
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<p>previous threads on this topic:</p>
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<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/50032-liberal-arts-college-vs-university.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/50032-liberal-arts-college-vs-university.html</a>
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<p>The old dichotomy of a liberal arts education vs. a practical one no longer applies. A pre-professional education today isn’t the most “practical” choice since the lifespan of anything “state of the art” is measured in months.</p>
<p>It was very practical when they spent six weeks teaching me to use a sliderule when I was in 7th grade.</p>
<p>At least I was prepared.</p>
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<p>A wonderful goal, but I wonder what fraction of liberal arts majors graduating today (at least from your average non-elite school) have received this “successful” liberal arts education. I see a lot of floundering kids bouncing around for years from art history to political science to psychology. It’s not clear to me that these kids have developed any particular “capacity for innovation” as a result of this five, six, or seven-year process or that they have demonstrated any “capacity for judgement” in their choices. </p>
<p>I am honestly interested to hear what kind of decent career options are available with a liberal arts BA, as the data points I have aren’t encouraging. I’m not disputing the value of a liberal arts education as preparation for graduate school or professional school, but perhaps it is not appropriate for all students, many of whom will not be pursuing post-graduate education. </p>
<p>Our society also needs engineers, nurses, accountants, pharmacists, early childhood educators, business managers, and other professions that can be pursued with a more specialized undergraduate eduation. I guarantee that our society would quickly implode if it were comprised exclusively of either engineers or liberal arts majors.</p>
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<p>I learned how to use a slide rule in 9th grade Chemistry, and through the process I also developed an intuitive understanding of logarithms, scientific notation, mantissas and exponents, estimation, and error-checking. These “habits of the mind” developed by manipulating slide rules in high school chemistry and other “skills” I learned that I no longer directly use have served me well over the years, and I have even survived the demise of slide rules and vaccuum tubes. Using this development as the math/science/engineering analog of the liberal arts education, I see where the author is coming from, even if I wasn’t wired to follow that path myself.</p>
<p>…well, at least learning the sliderule taught one that two decimal places is plenty most times…:)</p>
<p>a handful of other opinion pieces:
[Justifying</a> a Liberal Arts Education in Difficult Times - New York Times](<a href=“http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E4D7163DF93AA25751C0A9659C8B63]Justifying”>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E4D7163DF93AA25751C0A9659C8B63)
[Education</a>; Liberal Education’s Place in Profit-Driven World - New York Times](<a href=“http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DA133FF934A35751C1A96E948260]Education”>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DA133FF934A35751C1A96E948260)
[FOXNews.com</a> - Choosing a College: Liberal Arts vs. Professional Training - College Life | Guide | Universities](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208159,00.html]FOXNews.com”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208159,00.html)
[St</a>. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive Search](<a href=“http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CQAOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iXwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4880,5334927&dq=liberal-arts+education]St”>http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CQAOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iXwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4880,5334927&dq=liberal-arts+education)
[The</a> New York Times > Education > New Course for Liberal Arts: Intro to Job Market](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/education/19PROF.final.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5007&en=1d62c7b3870fcef8&ex=1402977600&partner=USERLAND]The”>http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/education/19PROF.final.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5007&en=1d62c7b3870fcef8&ex=1402977600&partner=USERLAND)
[url=<a href=“http://www.djournal.com/pages/archive.asp?ID=210397]djournal.com[/url”>http://www.djournal.com/pages/archive.asp?ID=210397]djournal.com[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Papa Chicken–Two significant digits is right! It kills me when I see presentations with calculations based on approximations but the results are carried out to six decimal places.</p>
<p>Thanks for your St Petersburg Times link! Never mind the liberal arts article, check out the rest of the paper!</p>
<p>First, it was dated Wednesday, February 29, 1984–Leap Day!<br>
There is an Ann Landers column discussing how cotton crotches in pantyhose cuts down on yeast infections.
And another article about Michael Jackson’s hair catching fire while making a Pepsi commercial.<br>
Also, Pat Benatar won the best rock female performance Grammy for the fourth straight year.<br>
Page 47 adverstises an Arby’s Early Bird Special: roast beef sandwich, cole slaw, and apple turnover for $1.50, but the electronics ad under it has an RCA “portable VCR” for $699 and a Sharp microwave oven for $388.</p>
<p>Absolutely priceless!</p>
<p>(It just occurred to me, I wonder what Ann Landers, Michael Jackson, and Pat Benatar majored in?)</p>
<p>“I learned how to use a slide rule in 9th grade Chemistry, and through the process I also developed an intuitive understanding of logarithms, scientific notation, mantissas and exponents, estimation, and error-checking.”</p>
<p>They could have done all of this quite effectively without the slide rule. (what I learned was to watch for the decimal point. ;)) I will grant that I could also have learned much from spending several months making flint arrowheads so that I could eat.</p>
<p>…or you could improve your English vocabulary by studying Latin for four years…</p>
<p>At least with flint arrowheads, you could defend yourself. ;)</p>
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<p>And can anyone explain why gas station signs display prices to 3 decimals?!?!</p>
<p>So how long until tuition will be $39,999.99?<br>
Alright, Andy Rooney hour is over…
Let’s get back to the incendiary topic at hand.</p>
<p>I have always questioned the proposition that a liberal arts education was the sole way to a life long learning and critical/analytical thinking. As an undergrad engineering major I was exposed to the arts, classical/jazz music, politics, history, urban sociology, economics, physical/bio sciences, math and applied physics(er, that would be engineering). The introduction to these diverse areas have made my adult life richer and more fulfilling even into my early retirement years.</p>
<p>Admittedly, achieving a well rounded education may be easier for a lac major however any intellecually curious student can develop a course of study which will expand the areas of learning to suit him or herself.</p>
<p>The one area of study which is absent from my resume is a foreign language which I do regret. Those three years of hs Latin have left me long ago.</p>
<p>here’s an interesting Carnegie report, circa 2000, “Liberal Arts Education
for a Global Society”:
<a href=“http://www.carnegie.org/sub/pubs/libarts.pdf[/url]”>http://www.carnegie.org/sub/pubs/libarts.pdf</a></p>
<p>an excerpt of one section
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<p>HOWEVER, albeit I am a liberal arts believer (appropriate for some but certainly not all), I must admit I do worry about where my sophomore son will get a job in two years with a LAC philosophy degree.</p>
<p>“Professional” meets “fluff” (the term used by some of my friends to describe non-professional courses) and it turns out that the “fluff” might be very valuable to the development of some professional skills):</p>
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