What's worse: LSP or Waitlist?

<p>So I heard that if you get off the waitlist, you’re admitted to whatever school you applied to. So if a lot of admitted students give up their spots, why doesn’t NYU move some of the LSP’ers into their first choice school, and move the waitlisters into LSP?</p>

<p>It’s probably a lot easier said than done given the huge volume of applicants. Switching a large group of people into different programs this late in the game would probably cause a lot of confusion and chaos. A University as big as NYU needs to be run bureaucratically if there’s to be any order at all.</p>

<p>doesn’t waitlisted people for schools like Stern have higher stats than LSP people?
Why would they want to take lower stats??</p>

<p>If you are applying to Stern, I doubt you would be interested in LSP. If you are applying to CAS, then you will probably be more open to a liberal arts program.</p>

<p>I was referring to CAS, not Stern.</p>

<p>LSP is geared for those whose STATs dont quite measure up to the regular applicant pool. Weightlisted means that you have met the regular applicant criteria and there are no available spots for you, unless one opens up and thus you are in your school.
Apples and oranges.</p>

<p>at least LSP means you’re in.
I was sure i was in nyu, and i almost… no actually i really did cry when i got waitlisted.</p>

<p>LSP means you got in to NYU, we all know what waitlist means. No question as to which is better.</p>

<p>@milkandsugar</p>

<p>I don’t mean to sound offended and defensive here, but to flat out say that “LSP is geared for those whose STATs dont quite measure up to the regular applicant pool” is a bit brash. I full aware of the fact that I’m no outstanding applicant, my stats certainly aren’t through the roof or anything but looking at typical CAS stats, I still don’t understand where my “weak” spot is (by comparison). I’ve seen countless instances where students accepted to CAS had lower stats than LSP students. I truly believe that often, other factors (such as whether you applied ED or RD, or your major) can play a big role in whether or not they decide to place you in LSP. LSP is still an acceptance to the school, and it seems as though NYU has made a point recently to try and get the word out that LSP students are not in any way “less intelligent” or “less qualified” than other students.
again, I don’t want to come off as sounding defensive, I just think that LSP has a false stigma attached to it and I’d like that to change.</p>

<p>(and for the record, I would MUCH rather be accepted through LSP than be put on the waitlist.)</p>

<p>Personally, I’d rather be part of the school already rather than waiting for possibly four long months to hear a definite response (until August 1st).</p>

<p>emmacatherine,</p>

<p>I want to respond to the issue you raised about LSP. There are always people arguing from different perspectives on the relative merits of who gets accepted where, across all schools and different programs within a university. Reminder; from this earlier thread on LSP.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/new-york-university/1111356-did-they-reject-students-more-qualified-than-ones-lsp.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/new-york-university/1111356-did-they-reject-students-more-qualified-than-ones-lsp.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, my opinion as stated in Post #4 and emmacatherine, one of your initial posts about LSP (Post #6).</p>

<p><a href=“Confusion about LSP / RD - New York University - College Confidential Forums”>Confusion about LSP / RD - New York University - College Confidential Forums;

<p>I think it is counter-productive to set people as “better than” or “less than” because they go to a certain program. I know it is inevitable with the known “lower” acceptance rates at Tisch and Stern. However, I like to see the view that we exist in a world with a variety of people who show their strengths and “intelligences” in different ways. Certainly, some are mathemetically gifted, while others are gifted in the performing arts. Yet others debate well, write well, create well, socialize well, etc. Some think more with their right brain and others their left brain.</p>

<p>I do not like to put a value judgment on which one is “better” and which one is “less than.” I realize even in talking to sonny who indicated to me some at NYU see the LSP students in a certain way that implies they are “less than.” I quickly let him know my very strong opinion on this, that it is wrong to go by this kind of deleterious pecking order, to feel better about oneself by putting down others. (Not to say this about sonny personally but to make sure he does not pick up a “herd” mentality.)</p>

<p>Ultimately, there are so many factors that go into what makes a successful, happy and contributing human being. Your placement in a certain academic program is only one small part of the whole picture.</p>

<p>My point, don’t fall for these artificial differentiations that harm more than uplift. This is one area where I have to praise NYU. I think in their own way, they do recognize the whole range of what it means to be intelligent and the range of people with different learning styles who can benefit from a NYU education. Not that they do not make mistakes. (Haha, I think, like other schools, they also fall into the trap of taking students who may have “cheated” the system in one way or another. Also, they, too are not immune to star power, like other top and “not so top” schools. So I cannot totally disagree with the poster who expressed his great disappointment in the thread, “I Hate You, NYU.” Where there is love, how can there not be hate when one is rejected? Though, obviously anger and hate are expressed differently by different people.)</p>

<p>So, I say, again, congratulations to all of you who got in based on your hard work and individual merits. No program in a top tier school like NYU is easy to get into. I feel really, really sad about some of the students who have yearned to go to NYU only to find they did not get in, got waitlisted, or cannot afford NYU.</p>

<p>emmacatherine, I do want to point out that I see a good thinking mind on your part to question people’s assumptions and maybe your own (as evidenced in your earlier LSP post cited above). I am happy for you personally that your wonderful mind will have a chance to be shaped and influenced by a strong education. :)</p>

<p>By the way, I think NYU can do a better job in explaining the type of program LSP is and what type of student they see as a match. It does not hurt for them to highlight the strengths of the program in a more emphatic manner. The same goes for the NYU-Poly program.</p>

<p>The school has pressures like any “business.” They are in the business of education. However, with that given, they can do a better job of defining to their customers what the intent of the various placements/ acceptances mean (besides as a way to “bring in money,” which is an underlying reason but, hopefully, not the only reason).</p>

<p>I see that the LSP will be a separate program students can apply to directly starting this coming year. I see that as a good thing and will help to make the program less of a “step-child” of the CAS program.</p>

<p>Emmacatherine29, my post was no way intended to offend. NYU is a numbers(SAT/ACT)driven school and because there are so many factors that goes in to an acceptance,and many more applicants than spots, NYU has made room for many. My daughter was rank 3 in HS, took all AP classes, yet she was not great at taking tests. Does that mean she should be denied acceptance to a university even though she is a stellar student? My point was to highlight that there may be some disparity between ranks and scores. I am in no way saying that LSP students are anything less.</p>