When people don't vaccinate their kids

<p>Also see this map, changing year-by-year with those dots across the globe. Since 2008, it’s being suggested, as the anti-vaccination movement took hold in the U.S., preventable diseases have increased. It’s a graphic illustraton of a suggested correlation, i guess.
<a href=“How Vaccine Fears Fueled The Resurgence Of Preventable Diseases : Shots - Health News : NPR”>How Vaccine Fears Fueled The Resurgence Of Preventable Diseases : Shots - Health News : NPR;
The point here is that, in a country such as the U.S., with good supply of the vaccination, the only possible reason for recent upsurges in preventable diseases is that the antivaccination movement gained traction.</p>

<p>I sincerely wish, in my perfect world, that we could hold parents accountable for not getting their child vaccinated the same way we hold them accountable when they die because the family decided to “pray” rather than get modern medicine. </p>

<p>I have to get my flu shot…</p>

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<p>I agree, romani.</p>

<p>Unfortunately I think the anti-science people and the conspiracy-theory people are growing in number (not sure about the super-religious who want to pray disease away). It doesn’t bode well for your future kids or my future grandkids. </p>

<p><a href=“Pediatrician: Vaccinate Your Kids—or Get Out of My Office”>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/30/the-real-reason-pediatricians-want-you-to-vaccinate-your-kids.html&lt;/a&gt; A good article</p>

<p>It was a good article.</p>

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More power to her! Sounds like a confident doctor. </p>

<p>Well, here I am. Home for two days now with the flu. I’m ashamed to say that I never did get around to getting my flu shot. Neither did my H who was the first to come down with it a week ago. He got hit pretty hard. Hadn’t taken a sick day in about 7 years. He was home for three this week. One morning he thought he felt a bit better so he got up, got dressed for work and sat down in the armchair. I came home form work and he was in the same spot.
I guess it was inevitable that I would catch it. Fortunately, I seem to have gotten a milder case than he did. Dry cough, slight fever, aches and pains, fatigue. All the symptoms but not terribly miserable. I’m grateful for that!</p>

<p>At least I got a booster of the DPT at my check up a few weeks ago, though. I guess I can feel good about that!</p>

<p>Since this got bumped, relevant:
<a href=“How Vaccine Fears Fueled The Resurgence Of Preventable Diseases : Shots - Health News : NPR”>How Vaccine Fears Fueled The Resurgence Of Preventable Diseases : Shots - Health News : NPR;

<p>And this:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/health/ohio-mumps/”>Mumps outbreak spreads beyond Ohio State campus - CNN;

<p>Is anyone else concerned about what might happen if the Supreme Court decides in favor of Hobby Lobby on the “religious freedom” vs. healthcare issue? For instance, what if a company is run by anti-vaccine “truthers” and they stop covering immunizations for employees’ kids. Couldn’t this whole thing get substantially worse? I am not a lawyer but I am afraid of what might be coming if we allow more anti-science beliefs to take hold in the arena of public health.</p>

<p>I have thought about that and my H and I had a discussion about Hobby Lobby the other day. He thinks they should be allowed to limit coverage based on their religious beliefs. I disagree. I think that all FDA approved meds and treatments should be covered. What is to prevent someone from playing the religion card or the anti-vaccine card in order to save money on health care coverage for employees? It is a slippery slope.</p>

<p>In NY they have introduced legislation to make it a matter of conscience, apart from religion. Thus making it even easier to avoid vaccination.</p>

<p>What is to prevent someone from playing the religion card or the anti-vaccine card in order to save money on health care coverage for employees? It is a slippery slope. </p>

<p>These are inexpensive items in the health care arena so I can’t really see a business limiting this stuff to save money. They would probably spend more than it costs on time and legal fees.</p>

<p>If my employer is a Jehovah’s witness, should he be able to deny coverage for blood transfusions for employees who are in accidents or who have Leukemia, which usually requires transfusions in massive numbers?</p>

<p>This whole thing about “religious freedom” is bunk, imo. Is the definition of “religious freedom” that one not only gets to practice their religion ( “I don’t believe in birth control or premarital sex, so I won’t do those things”), but gets to impose those beliefs on the health care practices of their employees who are there to do a job, not embody the religious philosophies of their employers?</p>

<p>It’s an interesting case because they are not actually imposing anything just saying they don’t want to be forced to pay for it. Those employees are free to get it elsewhere. Or find another job. Of course, I have never relied on an employer for insurance or understood why anyone who hires me to do a job should be expected to provide anything more than a paycheck so, yeah. I think this will be a close one, but they could easily lose.</p>

<p>Reason number 484789542 why we need to abandon employer insurance. It’s a ridiculous argument.</p>

<p>I wonder if any of the employees are objecting to Hobby Lobby’s coverage? Just curious. It’s an aspect of the case I haven’t seen covered. AIUI, Hobby Lobby plays Christian music in its stores and the stores, like Chick-Fil-A are not open on Sundays. If you work there, you likely know the corporate culture. In other words, the government may see a problem where none exists.</p>

<p>Hobby Lobby has 21,000 employees. Probably a number of them work there for the money, not because they agree with their employer’s religious prohibitions. Knowing the corporate culture doesn’t mean that you agree with the corporate culture, or that you agree not to have benefits you are legally entitled to.</p>

<p>Hobby Lobby does not want to provide emergency contraception (Plan B) to its employees, because they say that Plan B causes abortions. That is incorrect as to science; that’s not how Plan B works. Plan B works by preventing ovulation, which is why a woman should take it as soon as possible after unprotected intercourse.</p>

<p>So if a corporation is allowed to reject some health treatment based on wrong science, what is going to prevent McDonalds from saying that their religion forbids murder, and cancer treatment and heart disease treatment turn people into murderers, so they aren’t going to pay for these practices of the devil?</p>

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<p>It doesn’t automatically follow that Christian=against birth control of any particular kind. Lots of Christians have no problem with birth control, so I doubt that they would immediately assume anything based on the fact that there is Christian music being played in the store.</p>

<p>The other thing about Hobby Lobby is that they USED to cover many forms of birth control that they are now inaccurately categorizing as “abortifacients.” This is all happening now because of the politicized fight against the ACA. What a mess.</p>