so dietz, what’s the appropriate solution? Deny ANY person accommodations on the premise that if you accommodate one you must accommodate all?
Regretfully Nrdsb4, given our accepted system of ethical relativism, yes…in order to be fair and equal we either make all requested accommodations or we make none. To do otherwise it to be unfair, judgemental, and most likely illegal.
Or, we could re-evalute our current stupid PC system and put common sense back into play…but frankly…I don’t hold out much hope for that solution. We reward those who cry ‘unfair’ and you need to make this work for ME ME ME. There are an awful lot of “ME’s” with an awful lot of demands. We not only reward bad behavior but we add insult to injury by sheltering individuals and groups from the negative side effects of their bad behavior.
But then again, maybe a situation like the current one will make some re-evalute the benefits of just plain common sense.
I’m sure I’ve beaten my point to death…and will now retreat to the very soothing job of doing laundry. (with unscented, eco friendly, not tested on animals/vegetables or minerals soap of course - incase someone I encounter today is a PETA/scent and chemical sensitive fruitarian.) 8-|
@TatinG - I agree, but I’m not sure the airlines really are on top of their game to make that happen. 
@shellz - I don’t think people were comparing those (at least, I wasn’t) - maybe @dietz199 is doing so, but I thought it was more for the sake of argument. Tone is hard to read on these threads!
@fretfulmother Tone is hard to read, for sure! Mine was frustration at the laundry list of accommodations being sited as reasons not to address this public health threat. No offense intended
@shellz - none taken! I think it’s a common practice, a kind of arguing ad absurdum that if we can’t accommodate xyz then we shouldn’t accommodate [unrelated] abc.
Without getting into too much hot water, I would suggest that a lot of objection to “PC” accommodations is people not wanting to cede unearned privilege i.e. “my way or the highway because we’ve always done it so”.
And the thing about public health issues is that really, we do have to come to a universal compromise as a progressive society, because public health impacts everyone!
I can’t decide which one I like more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-sW_wZoAFk&feature=youtu.be
or from The Daily Show:
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/g1lev1/an-outbreak-of-liberal-idiocy
@Nrdsb4 – I love the Daily Show clip you posted. Thank you for sharing. 
Yup…check that vaccinated privilege! 
Exactly.
dietz, RESPONSIBLE people don’t have to be told to stay home from work when they are sick, or keep their kids home when they run a fever, are vomiting, or complain of a sore throat. If their kids fall ill at school or daycare, they will get a call from the nurse/provider the minute they start exhibiting symptoms that might indicate a contagious condition. For 99.999% of Americans (or whatever the percentage is), doing our part to keep illnesses from spreading is second nature–and we hope others will do the same.
We DO have regulations in place to protect the public good when there might otherwise be too much room for subjective interpretation. We have speed limits. We ban smoking in indoor places. We have laws requiring car seats for children under a certain age/weight.
No, we don’t. This is an example of the growing problem of false equivalency in this country. A crackpot fear of vaccines is not equal to an institutionally sanctioned perspective based on established science.
Well said. I disagree with the “you got to treat everyone equally and hold their opinions and values in the same esteem as the next person’s” as well.
^^^^ I wholeheartedly agree …
But it is not what we as a society currently do, we instead accommodate the absurd because we don’t want to risk being exclusionary, judgmental or discriminatory.
I believe that the point being made is that to whatever extent we do this, we need to stop!
^^^^Yep!
I don’t know…look at the Hobby Lobby-type laws popping up in various states. Michigan just passed a “Religious Freedom Restoration Act” that allows businesses to discriminate based on “their” religious faith (remember, businesses are people now). To me this is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to undo progress on equality for LGBTQ and other groups that are commonly discriminated against. Yet these types of laws seem to be gaining traction.
@fretfulmother, just FYI - Turkish Airlines will not allow animals on a plane if someone allergic has made their reservation first. They are the only airline that does this to my knowledge.
@Sally305 Those laws are gaining traction based on the legal precedents set by laws made to protect exactly those you mention. Weird but true. Someone is exempt from something they don’t like, can’t do, won’t do, believe they shouldn’t do, or want to do, insist on doing etc and then that law will be used as a reason to validate the next request. Unless we as a society are willing to admit and accept that not all situations and things can be equal and fair (I’d bet most of us teach our kids this reality early on) to all people at all times, then this cycle of ‘it’s about me and I’m special in this instance’ will continue.
Here is a prime example http://www.dre.ca.gov/files/pdf/re6.pdf
See…exception for one particular disease…why…well because someone insisted they were special. Why the not have to disclose THIS particular disease? Why not also protect the individual who died of cancer?
(yes, that was a tangent…but back on planet now)
Some pediatricians are dropping patients whose parents won’t vaccinate because they endanger others in the waiting room.
@sally305 - I think you are exactly right. (And since when does a store owner’s religion dictate a customer’s out-of-store unrelated behavior/identity - that is one odd and disturbing precedent that it would even be on the table as an issue.)
@greenwitch - thank you! Sadly, I don’t know that Turkish Airlines is competitive on my typical domestic US routes
Well, the store owners aren’t trying to dictate anyone’s out of store behavior. They would just like the right to refuse a job if they so choose so that I do not quite see as the same thing as a mandatory vaccination, at all.
Some CA school districts are now telling unvaccinated kids to stay home.
They are asking for the right to discriminate, and they are asking for legal protection to do so.
As they should.