@shellz, sorry, I should have included a link.
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccines-adults
These people are infuriating, and crazy.
And another mom said: “It’s good to explore alternatives rather than go with the panic of everyone around you,” she said. “Vaccines don’t feel right for me and my family.”
Says the woman who was most likely spared the horror of these diseases as a vaccinated child.
Measles cases in California continue to multiply.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/30/health/california-measles-outbreak/index.html
“Don’t feel right for me or my family” sounds like the wishy-washy wordsoup pharmaceutical commercials use.
I’m trying to get the allergist to confirm whether D should get a booster MMR before heading back to CA next month. Her staff seemed puzzled by D’s call to inquire.
A young girl/woman who is ready to get the MMR vaccine (obviously well past the age where she’d ‘catch’ autism), and her mom won’t let her??? Let’s hope that girl doesn’t get rubella while she is pregnant someday. Measles is awful, mumps is no fun, but rubella, while mild, has the worse possible catastrophic potential by far (congenital rubella syndrome). Jiminy.
jaylynn’s post reminds me of the quote I posted earlier from a nursing web site. The poster came back to clarify it. Here is is again:
Her rationale is not that she links measles with sexual activity, but that she would want to protect her child’s future fetus from a potential rubella infection in the mother.
I still find the logic of denying your child protection earlier rather than later extremely weak, but at least this nurse doesn’t think her child can get the measles from sexual activity.
^ that person is also mistaken; we don’t give MMR at 2 months. So, she’s still stupid. (sorry not really).
^^^Yeah, when other nurses called her on it, she claimed it was a typo and that she had inadvertently omitted the 1 in front of the 2. Whatever.
LOL, I guess you could get it during sex if you are unvaccinated and your partner is infectious yet still asymptomatic. But you know what I meant by that.
For those who think the measles are “just a little cough and rash.”
How sad that the “doesn’t feel right” quote in the New York Times article could easily have come from the Onion article! One can only hope that recent events will cause communities to revise their laws to stop catering to the ignorant and entitled and require vaccinations for school admission. Anti-vaxers can home school if they don’t like it. Proof of immunizations is required for registration in our school district, no exceptions stated, though I imagine they would be made on a case by base basis for those who are medically unable to tolerate vaccines. I had kids in this school system for 19 years, and never heard a peep on this topic. The wackos really do seem to congregate in specific geographic areas.
From the article:
Great. So let’s ban these people from traveling outside the U.S. or reentering it. Make airlines require proof of vaccination, along with customs and immigration agents. IT WORKED FINE to have only a small percentage of the population (i.e., those who could not be vaccinated) without coverage. So let’s go back to that. I am sick of these idiots (and yes, MommaJ, it is very hard to tell the difference between the Onion and real news sources quoting these people!).
Nice piece by Frank Bruni in the Times today…
There are people who can’t tolerate vaccines. We just got the flu, after not getting shots, because of a severe reaction to previous flu shots. We stayed vigilant and the ones who got sick got Tamiflu within a day and got better.
On the one hand, most people have absolutely nothing to fear from vaccines. On the other hand, if your kid is the one in ten million to have a reaction, that’s too much of a risk for you. Vaccines are an insult to the body, any scientist knows that.
What I don’t understand about relating this outbreak to anti-vaccinators is that the public health officials admit that they think the current measles shots will need boosters - JUST LIKE we had to get measles booster shots in the 1980s. Wow - who’da thunk it!
The anti-vaccinators are always around, but this is unrelated to them based on what I read in medical news. Let’s not pick on the idiots.
Of course it’s related to them. They may not have brought it over here, but they have the potential to be instrumental in spreading it to other people who did not make a choice not to vaccinate. The unvaccinated children who are old enough and healthy enough to be vaccinated but were denied this protection are VICTIMS of their parents’ foolishness.
rhandco, it sounds like you haven’t been reading the news on this. There are outbreak clusters emerging, particularly in California, in communities where an unusual percentage of people are opting out of the recommended vaccinations for themselves and their children. There is absolutely a connection between these people and the outbreak.
Also, the flu is very different from measles and so are the shots. The flu vaccine has had spotty effectiveness and many people decide not to get it. The flu is also not nearly as contagious as measles.
Vaccines are not an “insult to the body.” Becoming brain damaged or deaf or dead from a preventable disease is an “insult to the body.”
Has this been mentioned yet? A Bard student with measles traveled by train from Manhattan to Albany last Tuesday: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ny-measles-patient-boarded-amtrak-train-penn-station/story?id=2861987
Yes, scout. Post # 1449.
Thanks Jym. This thread moves pretty fast (especially for one in which most people are in agreement!)