One gets vaccinated for overseas travels so that the traveler doesn’t fall ill. Not the other way around. Remember, there is an easier solution to that problem: you can get the measles vaccine yourself instead of requiring other people to do so. Previously, the US had eliminated measles so foreign visitors to the U.S. didn’t need to be vaccinated. Now…maybe they do need the vaccination to travel here. I have no patience with people who demand other people be somehow immune but they don’t want to take the same steps.
Me, too. The tiny percent that deserve the protection that herd immunity offers are those that cannot be vaccinated for true medical reasons or the few who have been vaccinated and somehow didn’t end up immune. It’s selfish to decide that “I don’t need to put my kid at risk by vaccinating them since everyone else will do that and I can just rely on them to prevent an outbreak that will touch my child.” (Not to mention that I’m not buying this vaccine = autism idea, but even so…)
Sue22–yep! I was mistaken–NY does require MMR as well. Total brain blip on my part! 
I feel like if you decide that you are really committed to not being in the herd then you need to just stay out of the herd and not go to public school or live in a dorm or vacation at Disneyland. Have the courage of your convictions.
Well, I think the herd at Disneyland is not likely over-populated by Orange County anti-vaxxers since it’s mostly a tourist destination and they live down the street and are basically bored with the place. But, it’s an interesting diversion.
I wonder if Disney keeps any stats on that. If they ask people their zip code or country of origin at the entry gates. They could always check credit card info on billing addresses if they wanted to know where people were coming from.
Disney would just like this all to go away. They really do not want to be associated with measles.
It’s not just the visitors, though, marie. There are 23,000 employees there, making it the largest single-site employer in Orange County.
My cousin and family who live in the area get season passes. Of course they are vaccinated.
Sally, at least two of the original five cast members who contracted measles were vaccinated. I don’t think anyone is blaming the park employees but Disney is offering them vaccinations now for their own protection, mostly.
marie, there was a period of time in which the vaccine was not super-effective (some of us here were born then). That could account for the employees getting measles, and is all the more reason everybody who CAN get the most up-to-date vaccine should.
Sometimes I don’t know what you are arguing about.
Here’s a story about a family who was in that Arizona waiting room with the measles-infected woman, who as it turns out was infected by non-vaccinated family from the Disney cluster. The family’s baby, too young to be vaccinated, is showing possible early symptoms of the measles. His big sister, Maggie Jacks has leukemia and is being treated with chemotherapy.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/30/health/arizona-measles-vaccination-debate/index.html
Talk about selfishness. This is the response of Arizona non-vaccination guru Jack Wolfson.
I think we’ve found ourselves a modern villain.
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The anti-vaxxers are an easy villain. I’m still waiting for any evidence that an anti-vaxxer has anything to do with this outbreak except maybe at the margins and in a theoretical sense. What we know as fact is that it came from overseas and those infected include kids who were too young to be vaccinated, adults for whom the vaccine may have worn off or been ineffective to start with, and a whole lot of young people who have no clue if they are vaccinated or not but are not active anti-vaxxers, at all. They are not followers of Dr. Wolfson.
OMG, what a _____ (fill in word of your choice). And he is alleging that vaccines cause LEUKEMIA? He should have his medical license revoked, stat.
It’s ironic that the Jacks’ kids’ dad is a pediatrician too.
What an idiot. He should lose his license.
@marie1234 - we don’t know for sure that it came from overseas. They say “probably”. We do know for sure that the vaccine is not 100% effective, and that people born between 1963 and 1967 may be even less protected, and that unvaccinated people are not protected at all (despite their paleo diet).
It’s here now and all this is mixed up in a large population with a very contagious disease and it’s bound to cause trouble - for everyone.
We have passed anti smoking laws, particularly to protect non-smoking workers and restaurant patrons from second hand smoke. This is similar, although the carelessly spread germs will be passed around more quickly than the ill effects from breathing in second hand smoke.
Here is the law for accommodating disabilities…
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/edlite-FAPE504.html
The non-vaccinated are obviously disabled - their immune systems are very vulnerable. The parents of these kids obviously need to be educated. As per the above, the education of both the students and the parents or guardians must be free. So…here we go…it would not be s stretch for no-vax parents to claim discrimination based on their disability (inability to understand science; inability to process and understand scientific data, authority reactive issues - don’t believe or trust the doc, government; paranoid personality disorders etc.) The public school system could just designate one particular school facility to be for the un-vaccinated. Then they have to provide all transportation and cover all costs associated with moving the kids. It just take a good Marin lawyer. Really, it’s just another accommodation. Like it or not.
Let’s not get silly, dietz. Refusal to make good choices is not a disability under the ADA.
Have not read anywhere that folks who got vaccines should get a booster of MMR as adults, tho I did research this. Our D did get all her vaccines as a child and meningitis and Hep A and B and hpv.
She’s scheduled to return to LA and we are trying to get an answer from her doc about advisability of any booster. No word back from her doc yet.
Ignorance is also not a disability. And dietz is being silly.