Where do smart non-ivy students go?

Many high stat students are taking the free education in honors colleges at big state schools. My son is one. Sure beats paying a quarter of a million dollars undergrad at MIT for our family. The funny thing is that a graduate of his current school is going to MIT for grad school and another to Stanford at very low cost. And these are just the ones I know about.

Re #57, by the standardized scoring of their students, Harvard is 3rd in the country, Stanford, 9th.

Ok thanks. I was just wondering what safeties I could apply to then?

You should consider schools at which the acceptance rate is 30% or higher and at which your basic statistics are above average.

@Rdtsmith Did you S get into MIT? So, he turned down MIT.

You sound like MIT did not offer you a good deal. Maybe our families are in a similar financial situation – it appears. My S got into MIT but we are no sure about financial aid. You seem to have gotten a similar financial aid deal …

@koolguy654 Are you an Under Represented Minority (e.g., black)? If so, that can help a little bit in admissions if it is close.

Also, is English your first language?

My son has chosen the University of Maryland Clark School of Engineering over ivy league offers (Cornell, UPenn and Dartmouth). He got into the Honors College, Gemstone program with the full Banneker Key scholarship at Maryland and he prefers that wonderful option. It’s a solid and recognized institution and program which will give him much support to go to an excellent postgraduate education of his choice. The financial aid packages from the ivies is good but not good enough to make it affordable when you’re middle/upper middle class, have another child in school and live in an area of high cost of living like the Washington DC metropolitan area. The net price calculators for us were off by 15-20K…

Yes in fact I am black and I do speak English well, although it isn’t my first language.

U OF M!!!

Koolguy654,
May I strongly suggest you take the AC T once again.
If you can get your standardized test scores to a higher level, which should not be difficult for you since you have now been in United States for a while, and understand the language better,and have more learning under your belt, you should be able to score higher on the ACT than you did last year.
Scoring higher will make a big difference as to where you need to apply for safety’s.

@kittymom1102
How about ZERO financial aid from MIT…Luckily my son thought a quarter of a million was too much to pay as well for an education…thank God we didn’t have to cross that bridge and he discovered it on his own. He’s thriving now at University of Alabama in aerospace engineering and considers UA his home…so happy for him…and relieved! And oh one of his UA classmates who is a senior got accepted at MIT for grad work…another at Stanford, so there you go. Still an opportunity to attend prestigious universities if you continue to have what it takes!

Johns Hopkins, Duke, Caltech, The UC School System (Berkeley and LA), Georgetown, etc

Quora has a thread on new ivy league colleges…

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-new-ivy-league-colleges