Which range of schools do YOU consider "elite"? HYPSM? Top 20?

<p>Need i point out that the low rank of Hopkins is even MORE glaring on the engineering list?</p>

<p>And its not just a size normalization question any more either. RPI ties Hopkins, and more or less soundly beats Rochester. </p>

<p>Now DD is going to RPI (but for Arch, not engineering) so I am all for tooting RPI’s horn, but is it really a match for Hopkins in engineering, and soundly ahead of UR?</p>