<p>Amherst
Middlebury
Harvard
Tufts (I’m so shameless)
Dartmouth</p>
<p>williams
middlebury
harvard
tufts
dartmouth</p>
<ol>
<li>Amherst</li>
<li>middlebury</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
</ol>
<p>Williams
Middlebury
Yale
Tufts
Duke</p>
<p>Why is Yale > Harvard?</p>
<p>Why is Tufts better than Wesleyan?</p>
<p>Because most people posting are into the liberal arts?</p>
<ol>
<li>williams</li>
<li>bowdoin</li>
<li>yale</li>
<li>tufts</li>
<li>dartmouth</li>
</ol>
<ol>
<li>Amherst</li>
<li>Middlebury</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Wesleyan</li>
<li>Duke</li>
</ol>
<p>13-10 Williams
13-9 MIddlebury
13-9 Yale
13-10 Tufts
13-9 Dartmouth</p>
<p>Also, if you feel very strongly about one choice, let us know why… im curious!</p>
<p>I chose based on the quality of undergraduate education overall. The first two are pretty much a tossup, but I’d personally give a slight edge to Williams and Bowdoin. The other three, however, are pretty clear choices in my opinion (Yale, Wesleyan, Dartmouth). Of course, if I were looking just at particular departments or areas of study, I would adjust the ranking accordingly.</p>
<p>One of many pieces of evidence leading me to the above conclusions:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=177439[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=177439</a></p>
<p>posterX, most of those colleges don’t have actual pre-law programs, do they?</p>
<p>They do not have formal “pre-law programs”, but they do have pre-law advisors. </p>
<p>In a sense, however, these colleges <em>are</em> all pre-law programs, however, because a significant share of their alumni eventually attend law school.</p>
<p>You’ll find that the vast majority of students at the nation’s elite law schools did not attend or complete any kind of a formalized “pre-law program” - they majored in some other field (it doesn’t really matter which one) and did very well in their studies and on the LSAT. In fact, studies often show that students in majors such as music or chemistry have the highest admission rates to law school.</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s what I thought.</p>
<p>Edit: What strikes me as odd is that Penn is quite low on that ranking. I wonder what attributes to such a low percentage (even in CAS).</p>
<p>Penn scores quite low on many other similar “per capita” rankings as well (such as those for elite fellowships like Rhodes, Marshalls, admission to top medical schools and the proportion of students going on to earn doctoral degrees, etc.), leading me to conclude that their alumni success rates relative to other elites are chronically low due to the inherent quality of their student body and/or educational preparation. I’m not saying the student quality at Penn is low - it’s obviously one of the better schools out there - but on a per capita basis it does not seem to be on par with an HYP, Dartmouth, or AS3W (Amherst, Swarthmore, Williams, Wesleyan, Wellesley). </p>
<p>Another example can be found in the “CEO” ranking - the percentage and overall number of alumni who go on to become Fortune 500 CEOs, according to Susan Caminiti’s study published in Fortune Magazine, “Where the CEOs went to college.” In this study, Penn did not rank in the top 10 on either an overall or a per-capita basis, despite being the home of Wharton. The top schools on a per-capita basis were 1) Yale, 2) Princeton, 3) Washington and lee, 4) Harvard, 5) Dartmouth, and 6) Northwestern.</p>
<p>I think the percentage of students attending Yale Law out of college is an incredibly skewed, and I would venture to say, ridiculous attempt at “ranking” or placing colleges in any sort of academic quality order. This becomes quite obvious when Cornell and Penn are below Carleton, etc. Moreover, many students at these top schools choose to stay there for Law School - Georgetown, etc who have very good programs. Even beyond that, many students at top schools attend graduate schools, as it is a much more “academic” environment. Oh well…</p>
<p>14-10 Amherst
14-9 Bowdoin
14-9 Harvard
14-10 Tufts
14-9 Dartmouth</p>
<p>I just want to say Yale is way better than Harvard, that’s why it is beating Harvard. And I think anybody who chooses Harvard over Yale does so because they want the bigger name. I seriously don’t know why anyone would make that decision.</p>
<p>^ I much prefer Cambridge to New Haven, and the presence of the Kennedy school, as opposed to “nothing” at Yale for a solid MA program in Political Science/IR would make me choose Harvard over Yale…so…yeah.</p>
<p>Yeah Duffman, your point about YLS does seem true…</p>