Which should I choose EE or CS??

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<p>Auburn stop posting things from wiki. The initial salaries for CS majors has decreased significantly since the early 2000. its not even engineering. I’m an EE and I know more about programming than the cs juniors who are taking an upper level algorithm class with me. </p>

<p>Although CS is not entirely programming, a majority of CS graduates do go into the software industry. </p>

<p>go to Dice.com and check out their forums, see how they moan and complain of being stripped of their jobs only to see a foreigner take his/her place for half the salary. </p>

<p>my explanation is better than flipping a coin. If i got a nickle for every time i came across trash…</p>

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<p>here a link from Cornell, 60% decrease in the number of enrollment for Cs</p>

<p>[Comp</a>. Sci. Majors Face Outsourcing | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/node/31750]Comp”>http://cornellsun.com/node/31750)</p>

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<p>Lol a EE braggin about his major. Yeah man, V=IR. Pretty tough stuff. Whoa.</p>

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<p>rofl there’s some serious EE hating going on here.</p>

<p>CompE is where it’s at!</p>

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<p>“Auburn stop posting things from wiki.”</p>

<p>Those figures come straight out of the BLS OOH. That’s short for the Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Outlook Handbook. That’s a government agency for researching things like this and putting actual data down. Show me your study and we can talk.</p>

<p>“The initial salaries for CS majors has decreased significantly since the early 2000.”</p>

<p>I’m not arguing with that. I can check the OOH for salary discrepancy, but everything I said remains intact. There are more jobs for CS majors, and there will continue to be many, many, many more jobs for them. In fact, I think I might check the OOH to see whether or not CSEs make more or less than EEs, and by how much.</p>

<p>“its not even engineering.”</p>

<p>Engineering is not the field to go into if you want to make money. In fact, it’s not the field you go into if you want great job security, either. Perhaps you should evaluate why you’re in EE.</p>

<p>“I’m an EE and I know more about programming than the cs juniors who are taking an upper level algorithm class with me.”
I pity the CS majors who can’t hold their own against an EE in an algorithms class. I think this says more about the CS program at your university than about CS as an academic discipline. I assure you that the average CS major could torch an EE major at algorithms… if this is not the case at your school, then, well, we’ve already been over that.</p>

<p>“Although CS is not entirely programming, a majority of CS graduates do go into the software industry.”
It looks like somebody doesn’t know the difference between programming, computer science, and software engineering - as disciplines and as careers. I assure you that while programming might not be the best job, software engineering has been highly ranked in terms of job satisfaction and average pay for a long time. As for computer science… well, most real CS jobs involve research, and if you like research enough, there’s nothing better than that.</p>

<p>“go to Dice.com and check out their forums, see how they moan and complain of being stripped of their jobs only to see a foreigner take his/her place for half the salary.”</p>

<p>I prefer to use real sources, not anecdotal garbage that could be one teenager in Boise, ID with 15 screen names getting revenge on CS because he couldn’t figure out how a merge sort worked.</p>

<p>“my explanation is better than flipping a coin. If i got a nickle for every time i came across trash…”
Your explanation is better, in the sense that it is misleading, wrong-headed, sensationalist refuse.</p>

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<p>whoa. chill. put it into terms greenvision can understand. V=IR. Current is just charge in motion . . . etc.</p>

<p>I don’t see why he is so elitist about EE. It’s like math without the math and physics without the physics. hrmm.</p>

<p>That reminds me of a post on this webboard a while back where one guy was saying that studying EE was the secret to success in investment banking. He said that CS majors didn’t know anything about modeling/mathematics, etc. The EE’s secret weapon? The right-hand rule. E & M was the key to riches on the market. lol.</p>

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<p>"Electrical/electronics and communications
Bachelor’s: $55,292
Master’s: $66,309
Ph.D.: $75,982
Mean Annual Wage: $88,670</p>

<p>Computer engineering
Bachelor’s: $56,201
Master’s: $60,000
Ph.D.: $92,500
Mean Annual Wage: $100,180</p>

<p>Software Engineering
Bachelor’s: $53,396
Mean Annual Wage: $87,900</p>

<p>Computer and Information Scientists, Research
Mean Annual Wage: $100,900</p>

<p>Database Administrator
Mean Annual Wage: $72,900</p>

<p>Programmer
Bachelor’s: $49,928
Mean Annual Wage: $73,470"</p>

<p>Conclusion: SE and EE make about the same, with EE getting a few hundred more per year.</p>

<p>If you want money, it looks like you should go into CS theory or CE. Programming and database administration don’t fare as well.</p>

<p>Thanks for playing. Go get some data if you want to argue, now you’re just embarassing all EE’s everywhere.</p>

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<p>“whoa. chill. put it into terms greenvision can understand. V=IR. Current is just charge in motion . . . etc.”</p>

<p>I’m sorry, I forget I have to talk a little slow for the EEs sometimes. I know I shouldn’t get this into an argument, but… god, they just try so hard, and I think that’s great.</p>

<p>“I don’t see why he is so elitist about EE. It’s like math without the math and physics without the physics. hrmm.”</p>

<p>lol.</p>

<p>“That reminds me of a post on this webboard a while back where one guy was saying that studying EE was the secret to success in investment banking. He said that CS majors didn’t know anything about modeling/mathematics, etc. The EE’s secret weapon? The right-hand rule. E & M was the key to riches on the market. that’s a little stupid, but, okay.”</p>

<p>That sounds like an EE. My theory? Most EEs never see the good CS students. Probably because they don’t come to CS classes, and instead study the secrets of the universe, such as how to use a program to design a circuit.</p>

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<p>This thread is just so beautiful haha.</p>

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<p>I’m lollin’ over here. keep 'em coming greenvision.</p>

<p>Maybe its because I’m in the EE dept. and that’s all I see, but I think EE’s are probably the major most full of themselves. It’s not even deserved. Personally, I think you’ve got to tip your hat to the math krew. They pretty much have the bragging rights when it comes to this contest.</p>

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<p>My son is a CS major and he tutors the EE majors in circuits. Of course he’d like to study EE, CS, Physics, Mathematics and Mechanical Engineering too.</p>

<p>But really, do what you love.</p>

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<p>Math majors? I know some pretty stuck up ones of those, as well. Maybe this is what you were saying… idk.</p>

<p>I think that the most reasonable position to have is this: that any math, science, or engineering major / discipline is interesting and challenging in its own right.* It’s naive and egotistical to assume that yours is somehow better compared to others, especially given that you only have a basic knowledge of the fundamentals of the other field.</p>

<p>Math, Physics, AE, ME, CE, ChemE, Comp.Sci., SE, Chemistry, etc. are all worthy pursuits, and as long as you enjoy them, you’ll be fine doing them.</p>

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<li>Except EE. EE is a joke of a major. They should have camps for those people, or something… you, where they can be kept so that the rest of society isn’t subject to their damaging influence.</li>
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<p>It really is a petty contest.</p>

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<p>Aren’t all contests petty, at heart?</p>

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<p>I’ve found that math majors are the most modest of the science majors; maybe some of the dorkiest, but still cool in their own way. Computer science majors overestimate themselves the most, giving a huge advantage to people going into courses with no previous experience (i.e., me). Engineers are the most full of themselve. And the premed science majors, like Chem and Bio, are the most neurotic. Physics majors are cool, when they’re not looking down on math…</p>

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<p>I agree that some of the CS people are really pretty cocky. That’s a pretty true generalization of the other CS majors here at my school. A lot seem to think that they only need Cs in classes and already know everything the class could teach them, so they do the bare minimum and get nothing out of it. And, of course, if they do poorly in the class, it’s somebody else’s fault.</p>

<p>Physics majors are definitely pretty cool, but they do dump on the math people a lot. In my experience, some physics professors seem to be trying to indoctrinate physics majors into believing that other fields are easy… moreso than professors in other departments. Some professors have literally said that math is easy and trivial, a tool to be used to solve a problem… that CS was something you could pick up when you needed it, nothing to actually spend time studying, etc.</p>

<p>However, the math people here give it right back, ragging on physics pretty hard. In fact, they rag on CS and engineering pretty hard, too. Personally, I’ve known some of the best math majors in my uni.'s department, and I’m not as impressed as some other people. It seems to me that math people (here, again) think that there’s math, and then there are the other, lesser subjects. </p>

<p>The only thing a lot of engineering majors do that bothers me is dismissing other majors as “not engineering”. They generally acknowledge that they’re not great at Math, Physics, or CS… but they do their own thing, and in most cases, it’s just as respectable. The obvious exception, naturally, being EE.</p>

<p>And Pre-Meds are insane. My stress tolerance is much lower than that.</p>

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<p>Oh no, the math majors here hate on engineers too, more so than the physicists, since at least the physicists “rag on” us from within upper level math courses. I agree that I would not be able to handle a lot of the courses that my Engineering friends take, but I can’t take complaints about Calculus III that are clearly meant to be bragging at reaching “that level” rather than pleas for help.</p>

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<p>[The only thing a lot of engineering majors do that bothers me is dismissing other majors as “not engineering”. They generally acknowledge that they’re not great at Math, Physics, or CS… but they do their own thing, and in most cases, it’s just as respectable. The obvious exception, naturally, being EE.]</p>

<p>I used to point out the majors stack to my son many years ago. If you want to go into this, you have to study this, that, those, and these. I also spent lots of time talking about real software engineering compared to what happens in the classroom and to have an appreciation for what people in other majors learn and do. He has a healthy appreciation for science, engineering and business but I haven’t been very successful on the humanities.</p>

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<p>No, no, no, we need to get this straight. If an engineering student is struggling to understand a concept, it’s not due to a lack of effort or ability on his part. It’s probably because the topic is unimportant or useless. “I’m never going to use this.”</p>

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<p>“If an engineering student is struggling to understand a concept, it’s not due to a lack of effort or ability on his part. It’s probably because the topic is unimportant or useless. “I’m never going to use this.””</p>

<p>I’m lolling all over the floor right now. You’re lolling my lolling brains out. That’s so lolling true, like, omg.</p>