<p>BengalTiger234 to answer your question about the bitterness is because stanford was not an original ivy. The originals were Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth. </p>
<p><a href=“http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_league[/url]”>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_league</a></p>
<p>And since these are all in the Northeast, any other name mentioned as an ivy uneases people from the northeast.</p>