<p>Hey guys, Y7 revealed himself as a UChicago grad in this thread:
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<p>While it did fit all of the criteria, I’ve never come across a UChicago person who had this kind of attitude so I didn’t think it likely.</p>
<p>It appears we have a bit of a hyper-active quant that probably failed on Wall Street, based on his extremely poor use of data to make a point.</p>
<p>Modestmelody "Hey guys, Y7 revealed himself as a UChicago grad in this thread:</p>
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UChicago? </p>
<p>While it did fit all of the criteria, I’ve never come across a UChicago person who had this kind of attitude so I didn’t think it likely.</p>
<p>It appears we have a bit of a hyper-active quant that probably failed on Wall Street, based on his extremely poor use of data to make a point. "</p>
<p>The correct profile of Y7 should be: “A Wharton grad who’s laid off from Goldman Sachs. A miserable guy who wishes he had attended CalTech, Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Columbia, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Penn State, or Philedelphia Community College.”</p>
<p>There are reasons why this poor guy keeps bashing Penn. </p>
<p>I think Modestmelody is a man hidden under a woman’s name.</p>
<p>I am male, hiding under no name. The username comes from song lyrics and it’s a username I have been using since I’m 14 though I’ve been fading out its use. I’m also not hiding behind anything-- my real identity is posted all over these forums for anyone who is interested.</p>
<p>Clue: you were not laid off from GS because you went to Wharton.</p>
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OMG, I called this one. ;-).</p>
<p>You know, life isn’t a zero-sum game. It takes away nothing from one’s own degree / college to say that some other college or set of colleges offer a good education as well. A secure person is perfectly able to say, “I loved my college and it was great – and there are some other places that are great too!” An insecure person gets all worked up that grads of other colleges might be infringing on their identity.</p>
<p>This whole thing is laughable, because someone with such a weak sense of self-esteem that he actually gets upset that some other “non-deserving” college has a good ranking is no one who can actually hold a real-life conversation or impress any interviewers, much less clients. The hotshot i-bankers and rainmakers are people who have social skills and graces, not people who obsess over rankings.</p>
<p>Y7 strikes me as the kind of person who is rude and condescending to the administrative assistants since they didn’t go to top schools. Well, maybe not, as long as they know their place and get him his coffee. People like that don’t ever make it to the top of anything.</p>
<p>"OMG, I called this one. ;-). "</p>
<p>I think he was just taking another shot.</p>
<p>Washington Monthly Ranked Penn 59th </p>
<p>[Washington</a> Monthly](<a href=“http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings/national_university_rank.php]Washington”>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings/national_university_rank.php)</p>
<p>PhD Productivity ranking based on Washington Monthly 2009 College Ranking:</p>
<p>1 California Institute of Technology
2 Massachusetts Inst. of Technology
3 Yale University (CT)
4 Rice University (TX)
5 Princeton University (NJ)
6 Brown University (RI)
7 Stanford University (CA)
8 University of Chicago
9 Cornell University (NY)
10 Harvard University (MA)</p>
<p>11 University of Rochester (NY)
12 Duke University (NC)
13 Dartmouth College (NH)
14 College of William and Mary (VA)*
15 Brandeis University (MA)
16 University of California, Berkeley*
17 Johns Hopkins University (MD)
18 Northwestern University (IL)
20 Columbia University (NY)</p>
<p>21 Case Western Reserve Univ. (OH)
22 Carnegie Mellon University ¶
23 Vanderbilt University (TN)
24 University of Notre Dame (IN)</p>
<p>25 University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>26 University of Virginia*
27 Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (NY)
28 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor*
30 Georgetown University (DC)</p>
<p>Penn is 25th! </p>
<p>The schools I am accused of ■■■■■■■■ HYPMSCCCDBC are well above Penn.</p>
<p>Again, Penn is at the bottom of Ivy, no where near CalTech, MIT, Stanford, Chicago or Duke.</p>
<p>Pizzagirl, I am soory to deliver the bad news to you.</p>
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You know, I thought of that.<br>
But I still take credit for being the first to add Penn to the suspect list.</p>
<p>“I am male, hiding under no name.”</p>
<p>You’ve deceived me! LoL… even your writing style is so feminine…</p>
<p>I always admire people with great personality that’s why Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Duke, Berkeley, Northwestern, Michigan and Rice are high on my list. </p>
<p>Which school do you think has more students and alumni with great personality: UPenn, Chicago or Caltech?</p>
<p>If you sort those Washington Monthly rankings by research, you get this:
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Canadian bacon and pineapple, please. :)</p>
<p>"Which school do you think has more students and alumni with great personality: UPenn, Chicago or Caltech? "</p>
<p>Perhaps like beauty, this is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
<p>[Washington</a> Monthly](<a href=“http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings/national_university_rank.php]Washington”>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings/national_university_rank.php)</p>
<p>as much as i love seeing the three schools i’m applying to in the top 3, something seems off about this</p>
<p>"Which school do you think has more students and alumni with great personality: UPenn, Chicago or Caltech? "</p>
<p>I’ll say Penn. It is jumping around everywhere, from #4 in US NEWS, to #15(16?) in Wall Street Journal, to #83 in Forbes, to #59 in Washington Monthly, to #33 in placement into top PhD programs.</p>
<p>It is dynamic, exciting, and diverse.</p>
<p>Actually Y7, as you well know, Penn is tied for #12 (with a lot of other schools) in the placement into the PhD programs that you have chosen.</p>
<p>And by the way, as has been asked many times before, can you provide us with the source of your statistics (I’m a little skeptical since you were originally wrong about the number of Penn students at Harvard and you seem to be throwing around 3 year statistics that I can’t find on the school websites)</p>
<p>You’d think an ex-GS employee would be a bit less cavalier with numbers.</p>
<p>Oh wait, actually it makes perfect sense…</p>
<p>Did you attend Penn? Maybe they don’t want to show you the statistics that hurts Penn. The fact is, very few students (especially in terms of percent) went into top 5 or even top 10 economics, physics, math, history, politicals science, english, engineering PhD programs.</p>
<p>“politicals science”? Well at least you spelled “English” right.</p>
<p>ok Y7, I’m going to try one more time. </p>
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<li><p>What is the source of your 3 year statistics–I can’t find them on the web</p></li>
<li><p>As I noted in another thread, in Penn’s annual career survey, approximately 68% of students responded with their plans after graduation (a very high percentage of self-reporting). As an example of one field, of students who responded to the survey who majored or double majored in history, 21 went on to grad school of various kinds including 2 to the London School of Economics, 1 to Cambridge, 1 to Oxford, 1 to Stanford, 2 to Penn and 12 to law school, including 3 to Harvard Law. These results seem pretty impressive to me.
For those interested, here’s the link <a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/college/2008cpsurvey.pdf[/url]”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/college/2008cpsurvey.pdf</a></p></li>
<li><p>There are numerous other examples of placements into graduate school. For example, in the 2007 survey, 9 chemistry majors reported going on to further study, 2 to California Institute of Technology, 1 to Columbia, 1 to Harvard, 1 to University of Texas and 4 to medical school. In the same survey, there were 4 physics graduate students, 1 at Stanford, 2 at University of Pennsylvania and 1 at University of California at Santa Barbara.</p></li>
<li><p>Even this data tells us nothing about how many students applied where and what their reasons were–for example, some students may have wanted to return home, some may have gotten offers with better stipends etc.</p></li>
<li><p>Finally, and most importantly, you are assuming that the participation of Penn students in certain prestigious graduate programs that you have have chosen is a proxy for the quality and strength of the undergraduate education and the student body at Penn. I completely disagree with this premise. I also believe that many of the most intelligent students at Penn go into business and law. We can agree or disagree about whether we like this focus or whether Penn should encourage more of its students to get academic graduate degrees and I am making no claim that Penn is the best (or the fourth best) school in the country. However, it is an excellent school with extremely bright students receiving a quality education, the equal of many other top schools in my judgment, including Chicago, Duke, Dartmouth and a host of others. In addition, it is a more well rounded school than a school such as CIT, which has brilliant students, but which, in my opinion, provides an amazing, but fairly one-dimensional academic experience.</p></li>
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