Why community colleges aren't that great an idea

<p>You would think he’s ■■■■■■■■, but I actually don’t think so. I think that he’s a guy embittered over having to go to a CC instead of a university, particularly since he thinks that he is so much better and more worthy than his peers.</p>

<p>plz help me find colleges in Dallas TX. i wanna go to nursing school or medical. i am not sure what i m gonna do in future i might become a nurse or a doctor.
someone who went to a good nursing school in Dallas plz help me out.</p>

<p>Our D went to CC & found it very helpful. The courses were VERY small, the teachers taught THE SAME COURSES at the flagship U to much larger classes at many times the price. The parking was free. The food was MUCH better (they had a award winning culinary arts program). She was able to save a LOT of $$$, which allowed us to pay for the private U she transferred to, with all the credits she earned at her CC (most of which transferred).</p>

<p>It is true that she didn’t make best friends with the folks at her CC, but she did meet several very nice people, including classmates & faculty that encouraged and believed in her. She got great grades & a good solid background at her CC that has helped her do well in the private U she transferred to–we all have no regrets. She did not attempt or get an associates degree & will be getting a BA in cinema instead.</p>

<p>CC is, and has always been, super cool!</p>

<p>Was looking for some CC information and just happened to stumble upon this thread.</p>

<p>If a CC is as good as everyone in this thread claims to be, why doesnt everyone just go to CC for 2 years then transfer to a top notch school.</p>

<p>Why should a student opt for the CC route (besides HS grades and finances) instead of the straight to 4 year university route?</p>

<p>There are actually a goodly number of kids who do exactly that–go to CC for a few years and transfer to a great 4-year U. The UC system helps make the transfer easier with articulation agreements and various transfer programs. Other schools WILL work with students who are motivated and contact them about what courses transfer, but it takes more of an effort and there are no guarantees.</p>

<p>CCs are NOT all created equal (nor are all Us or HSs). Some give you a much better background & more preparation for rigorous academics than others. There is also some stigma attached to attending a CC, as you can see from posts on this & similar threads or by talking with people about their impressions of why folks attend CCs.</p>

<p>As I’ve posted several times, there are many good reasons to attend CCs–small class sizes, more convenient locations, parking, course offerings that may not be available at the U, more convenient scheduling (including online courses). So much depends on the CC & Us involved, the individual students and circumstances.</p>

<p>CCs are playing an increasingly important role in our society, particularly in helping people develop new skills so they are more marketable for different jobs as some of their jobs are outsources or cease to exist for various reasons. They are also very helpful in broadening skills for people on the job.</p>

<p>@himom - i def agree with you on all the points you made aside from the good parking, class sizes, course offerings, and convenient scheduling haha</p>

<p>i know for a fact, my experience at mtsac was the complete opposite. it took me hours to find parking, class sizes were 40+ (aside from honors classes), course offerings were minimal due to the fact that theyre always taken, and you dont choose classes at mtsac, they classes choose you. </p>

<p>but im sure there are def some CCs that do have good parking, class sizes etc…just probably not in socal.</p>

<p>CCs are such a huge category, it is difficult to speak to each individual one. At our flagship U, many freshmen & sophomore courses have literally hundreds or more students/class, so even a class of 40 is much smaller than that. Parking at our flagship U is virtually impossible, while there are SOME spaces at the CC, but of course there are regional differences everywhere.</p>

<p>CCs are getting hit with lots of budget crunches, as more are trying to use them with fewer dollars being offered to serve more students. This is one of the issues that are hitting Us – public & private as well, but impacts vary so everyone needs to do the best research they can.</p>

<p>You are right that it can be tough to get needed courses. This is greatly delaying my niece’s degree in education. She took many courses at CCs and also some at CSUs, but it is tough to get all the coursework she needs in the proper sequence, which has taken her longer to finally get the degree. Her BF is having a tough time getting his courses as well, which is also delaying his degree at a CSU.</p>

<p>yea…its really unfortunate :frowning:
i thought i had it bad during my time at CC, but today its just a jungle.</p>

<p>The OP’s broad, sweeping statements are uninformed and asinine. I am finishing up at CC and transferring in the Fall for electrical engineering. I have a friend at UCLA whom I have had to tutor on several occasions. How could I, a simple junior college plebeian, possibly know more than a high-flyin’ UCLA student? I actually received a BETTER education than she did. That’s right- I am not saying that if you go to community college you will receive a “good enough” education, so that you will be able to survive in the 4-year universities. I am saying that you will actually receive a BETTER education. </p>

<p>Why?

  1. Smaller class sizes when compared to the public schools- This makes a huge difference</p>

<p>2) Professors are there solely to teach, rather than to do research- I have taken 2 classes at Davis, and both professors seemed to view the undergrad students’ classes as nothing more than a roadblock to them and their research.</p>

<p>3) Save money- Relax! You don’t have to bust your @$$ to pay for school. You can focus on your academics, rather than your need to fund them.</p>

<p>4) Easily accessible help- Junior colleges generally offer free private and group tutoring. While the 4-year schools also offer this, in my experience, it is much easier to get help in ju co.</p>

<p>If you utilize the tools available to you, disregard the ignorant statements by people like the OP, and stay motivated, than you will come out way ahead of your peers who have been in the 4-year universities from the start. I will agree with the OP that you miss out on the social aspect of things, and 4-year universities are more fun. If having fun is the most important thing to you, then I would say that you should try to go to the 4-year university. If a quality education and financial stability are the most important things, then go to ju co.</p>

<p>What ALF said!!</p>

<p>I’m happy to see that so many CollConf people are NOT snobs.</p>

<p>Just a random impression, but it seems to me like OP might be in the process of formulating an arguement to the parents as to why s/he should go to a 4-year as opposed to the local CC…</p>

<p>I would argue that OP wasn’t being borderline racist. He was simply being racist. No reason to candy coat things eh?</p>

<p>Not all CC students had bad GPAs in high school or come from low-income family. A former friend of mine is nearly rich and had a decent GPA in high school, but she ended up at my community college because she got rejected from her dream college. As for me, I’m going to CC first and then transferring because it’s cheaper that way, and transfer students get priorities over freshman admitted students.</p>

<p>The only reason I’m taking a course at my cc next year is because zi’m homeschooled and most colleges require it.</p>

<p>Community college is basically like high school. It’s full of all sorts of people. If you want to save money it’s good but I’d rather not take community college because they tend to drag you down. There’s a reason regular colleges are sorted by aptitude.</p>

<p>If you & your family have unlimited resources, of course, you don’t have to think of finances and what makes the most sense to accomplish you goals. Unfortunately, many of us DO like to figure out how to have our funds and resources stretch so we will be able to get what we want WITHOUT crushing debt and sacrificing other things we value.</p>

<p>CC is only like HS in that yes, it does have lots of different people. I am not sure what is meant by CC “dragging you down.” </p>

<p>It makes more sense to talk about what you actually KNOW rather than vague rumors and repeating stereotypes. It is also unreasonable to talk about CCs “in general,” because they vary widely in quality, how well they prepare students for careers and other academic settings, quality of faculty, academic rigor, convenience, and other important features.</p>

<p>Don’t know what you mean by “regular colleges sorted by aptitude” either. Many Us have quite a range of students as well, especially state schools but also privates.</p>

<p>What I mean by colleges sorted by aptitudeI is that it has been shown that people learn better when they’re surrounded by people like them. There’s a reason why there’s a Stanford and there’s a San Jose State.
P.S. I am attending community college right now, so I’m not just spreading rumors.
I hated high school, and community college is just like that.</p>

<p>Are you getting great grades & getting involved in things you care about so you will have a great record & can transfer to a school where you can study what you are more interested in and around people you feel are more “like you”? My D attended CC & did just that. She’s now at her dream U and we are grateful that her credits transferred.</p>

<p>She had to find internal motivation and keep her focus on what she wanted, but she’s very happy where she is now. Good luck on reaching where you would prefer to be!</p>

<p>Why Kain is a terrible person, and not such a great idea.</p>

<p>See what I did thar?</p>

<p>I would like to see the citation for the alleged study where, “it has been shown that people learn better when they’re surrounded by people like them.” And, what does “like them” mean? Relative to Socioeconomic class? Race? IQ? And, “learn better” at what? Course content? Critical thinking? Cultural literacy? I’m thinking that those who are, “surrounded by people like them”, are not going to learn much about the latter. </p>

<p>Again, this thread smacks of so much elitism and bigotry, I can hardly stand it.</p>