totally hear you laralei. UA is where? Arizona? i do think Temple has a respectable engineering program but it sounds like from what i read, Pitt is very strong in engineering. and since your son got into honors at Temple, the honors dept would take very good care of him and would likely help him get computer engineering options going and in my opinion, encourage the engineering dept to make good options avialable for your kid if he decides to revisit the possibility of giong to Temple. feel free to pm me if you have any questions. it was not my intent to hijack a pitt thread on the merits of Temple. a sizable scholarship def helps put a school higher on the totem pole, no doubt about it. interesting, mommdc… that indirectly supports my theory.