<p>OK, SBR, let’s be SIMPLISTIC so it’s easy for you to understand (distinctly qualifying statements with “my experience” etc., given that it is too much to assume that you understand that those qualifiers are understood).</p>
<p>I attended Duke and had the same experience that danstearns describes about his visit to Duke. My roommates and many of my fraternity brothers and I often would discuss this feature about many of our fellow Duke students–that they often tried too hard (even with the support of our beloved basketball team) to prove our worth, particularly relative to our peer schools and the schools that MOST of our fellow Duke students did not get in to (Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, etc.).</p>
<p>Does that work better for you, SBR?</p>