I think we’re incredibly fortunate in Michigan (like California, Texas and Virginia) to have more than one choice for high performing high school kids. But the bottom line is I know more than a handful of 3.8 uw 29 ACT kids that were deferred and then waitlisted at UofM in the past two enrollment cycles. a few who had older siblings attend and graduate with the same stats in years prior, so GCs are leery for those top kids. I was just at a party a week or so ago and one of the high school GCs was talking about this as we both have post-college-graduation kids, now. It is a true crap-shoot if they will be admitted to UofM or not. Several took off for Michigan Tech and are transferring now (as juniors), several went to K and several are happily spending their 4 years at MSU. I know one that just transferred from UofM to MSU junior year and I know one or two that are keeping their noses above water at UofM and a couple that have been very successful there. There may not be a statistical overlap on paper, but there is overlap in other ways. Kids don’t like rejection, so I imagine that until something changes there may be emotional “defections” and self selectivity. I sometimes joke to my (UofM) siblings that MSU is the UofM of “old”. The “new” UofM is a different animal for better or worse depending on your perspective. Probably worse if you are a freshman standing on North Campus waiting for a bus in the dead of winter or watching your football team lose 