Why do some teachers try to fail or give bad grades to students?

<p>^was that high school or introductory college course? I feel like professors get a lot more objective as you move up into more advanced classes. Not saying it doesn’t help to be friendly and all…</p>

<p>yeah high school. although my college is not without its (successful) suckups and teachers pets, and in classes with participation/essay components that stuff can really show up.</p>

<p>hehe, ain’t those the type of kids who never have any friends? cuz nobody likes a smartas who seems to think he’s better than the rest of us.</p>

<p>at least that part makes me feel better.</p>

<p>you know come to think of it. There was this time in high school where I took this AP history course. btw I’m dumber than a bag of hammers in history. the teacher kind of noticed me for my efforts and the strides I made on his tests. Because I was in his good graces, he gave me a B- for my petty 72% at the end of the course. I guess you need to see it from both sides eh?</p>

<p>Dude it’s high school, those high school teachers failed college so badly and ended up with a crappy job like now.</p>

<p>^^She actually had a ton of friends and was really cool and kinda attractive. If I were a girl I’d be really jealous of her.</p>

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I want to be a high school teacher!</p>

<p>"Dude it’s high school, those high school teachers failed college so badly and ended up with a crappy job like now. "</p>

<p>that’s a pretty shallow remark. but in general, I have to agree.</p>

<p>It’s not just about grades. I’m really competitive about everything. I hate to lose or get a bad grade or do bad at anything I do. It’s not like I’m a nerd or anti-social or anything. It’s just that I expect to get the best result when I put the required work in.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t be this mad if it was English or Econ or something but since I’m going for civil engineering my math and science grades really do matter!</p>

<p>“This guy was .13 away from the definition of an A in the class, and 1.87% over the ACTUAL definition of “A” he showed up to class on time and did the requisite work. He EARNED the A, the fact that he didn’t get it makes the professor a jackass.”</p>

<p>See, I don’t get this attitude. I don’t think an A represents showing up to class and doing the requisite work. If anything that is a B effort. I don’t think people should get A’s simply for showing up and doing the requirements. EVERYBODY in the class should be doing that. You “deserve” an A when you achieve the required percentage grade, not when you get close to it. If anything people in this situation should be mad at themselves for not working a little bit harder. </p>

<p>Now, if you found out the professor rounded for some students and not others without any set criteria, then you’d have a reason to be upset. But getting mad at the professor because the grade you earned is not the grade you wanted, even if you got really close, is silly and unfair. The professor HAS to make the cutoff somewhere.</p>

<p>Boohoo you got an A-. This is really not the end of the world.</p>

<p>How about grow up a little, stop blaming people around you for your lack of earning 0.13%, and try harder next semester if you really want an A?</p>

<p>Really, A- is not a bad grade, believe it or not.</p>

<p>^Again, for the two people above me… my point was that he wasn’t some slack-off kid who didn’t show up to half the classes and turned in all his assignments late, he attended class, did the assignments and the actual point I was trying to get across was the unspoken ‘hint hint’ that he also went to office hours. Which means this is a kid putting in the A effort, and he was off by less than a QUARTER OF A PERCENT!!! I can see how he’s being a bit unreasonable saying “Ohhh I got a B+ (he’s saying he got an AB or B+, not an A- people, that’s why I’m on his side, almost a whole letter grade lower folks) this is failure at life” an A- or even a B+ isn’t failure at life. I’m irked at the people who keep going “grow up kid and work harder, work harder, work harder” he clearly put IN the work and demonstrated that he earned the A, being off by LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A PERCENT doesn’t deserve a change from A- to B+, there’s no “he’s gotta cut it off somewhere” about it. I revise what I said earlier, even complete jackhole professors round up when it’s THAT close. It’s not like it’s the difference between an 85% B and an 86% B, it’s the difference between a B+ and an A-, we’re talking a difference that can be GPA busting, it won’t make a big difference in the end if the .xx% being rounded up won’t change anything, but if it’s the difference between B+ and A-, they generally cut slack on .5% or less. I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall here, seriously.</p>

<p>And chillt… you’re exemplifying the whole “knight templar” ‘everything is black and white and absolute all over’ personality I was attacking someone else for on page 1. Yes, he’s being melodramatic. No, he doesn’t need to “grow up” he has every reason to gripe about a professor who pulled a legitimate dick move on him. What really annoys me about what you said is the whole “stop blaming people around you for your own mistakes” thing, where…exactly did he do that? He owned up to the fact that his grade was .13% off, but just pointed out how BS it is that the professor didn’t round it up when almost every other prof would. </p>

<p>Jesus people, what happened to the whole College Confidental brotherhood vibe that was around here just a few months ago? Everybody’s become knight templars and jerks to people. Show some support for the guy and his legitimate grievance. People were so nice like 3-3.5 months ago and now they’re all like “I have this problem…” “SKREW U KID F*** OFF GROW UP OR DIEEE!!!” sheesh, I’m only being nasty to others because they’re being nasty themselves, honestly folks.</p>

<p>give the professor a negative rating on ratemyprofessor.com</p>

<p>ps. Grow up! kidding</p>

<p>Itachirumom- you said an A should be a 90, right?</p>

<p>How’s this for annoying- in one of my classes last fall, you needed a 96.3 for an A because of serious down curving (plusses/minuses don’t count for engineering at my school). Now /that/ was obnoxious. (I was originally given a B… but then reminded them that they forgot to add in points for a certain assignment and they changed it a few weeks into winter break for me).</p>

<p>^Cute, reminds me of my Honors speech/persuasive speaking class, it didn’t work on a % system, it worked by how many points you lost. -20 or less was an A, -45 or less was a B. I ended up with a -18, -5 of which because I overslept one day and didn’t finish my speech outline, he was rather rude to our group but I understood, although I think the -5 was rather excessive just because it was a panel. Anyway until I had that A I grew to hate him for what seemed to be excessive whatever you’d call it, considering my schedule really DID require me to wait until the last minute, but I never refused to take responsibility for it. I’m rambling, I think I need some caffine. </p>

<p>Anyway, yeah, I know annoying.</p>

<p>What the heck is an “AB”? Do you mean a “B” ?</p>

<p>Yes, I would like fries with that.</p>

<p>I’m sorry but maybe your nice coddling high schools round up, but they don’t do that in college. You didn’t get the 92, so you don’t get the A. It’s simple. Grow up.</p>

<p>-If you’re a few dollars short on your taxes, you go to jail.
-If you’re a few minutes over on the parking meter, you get a ticket.
-If you’re a few points short of the A, YOU DONT GET AN A.</p>

<p>Everyone is so entitled these days and can’t accept rejection. They expect to just get an A because they want it. It’s really sad.</p>

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<p>This. An “A effort” isn’t enough. You have to give an A performance to get the A.</p>

<p>Leave us kids alone!</p>

<p>i dont remember what i had last yr, but i was like 0.2% or something like that ridiculously close to an A-, ended up with a B+, I was mad, at myself. The professor did what she’s suppose to do, and it was my fault for not making over the cutoff.</p>

<p>So quite crying, you did not get an A, even though you’re very close.</p>

<p>what if you get a 89.9997?</p>