<p>What I never said what <em>GRADE</em> I got, you assuming mengholio</p>
<p>Math professors at Penn basically rewrite the book on the board.</p>
<p>Honestly, when you have the majority of the class getting Bs or better - the class is not hard. Not even remotely.</p>
<p>Because of the curve, dear. Please try harder to grasp that concept.</p>
<p>I’ve had classes that hard with no curve (hell, a 66% average isn’t even that hard). And the curve makes it a hell of a lot easier.</p>
<p>In fact, I’ve showed that (both the average test grades and then the final curve) to multiple people and they all agreed that the class is easy. A hard class doesn’t have 2 people out of 124 fail. That’s a joke. I’m not sure I’ve ever been in a class with that low of a failure percentage…</p>
<p>payne are you in incoming freshman? are you coming from a zoned high school? I’m just wondering because a third of the class getting Cs or lower is still pretty strict by my standards.</p>
<p>Besides, if you’re going to apply the curve to the class, you have to remember to apply the curve to the gpa as well. If everyone gets a B in every class, then guess what… it’s the same as if everyone gets a D in those classes. College is always about how well you do in comparison to others</p>
<p>No, I am in college, have been for a few years. And I’ve seen classes with 40% averages and no curve. <em>That</em> is hard. I’m talking about 2/3 of a class <em>failing</em>.</p>
<p>that’s pretty ridiculous. which classes?</p>
<p>Dynamics, Thermo, Fluids. To a lesser extent - certain math classes…</p>
<p>Any of these seemingly basic classes can be made extremely hard given the right professor. It just depends on how hard they want to make it.</p>
<p>oh man . . .</p>
<p>What about classes like math 114. Is that more similar to something like 104 or to something like dynamics, thermo, fluids.</p>
<p>The subject matter isn’t what governs whether a class is hard or not. It usually simply depends on how hard the prof decides to go. Dynamics/Thermo/Fluids can all be made <em>easy</em>. They can also be made ridiculously hard.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that 114, 240 are curved. Ive taken them and they were fine. To be honest this is the first time I’m hearing of such harsh grading</p>
<p>Payne, what school do you go to?</p>
<p>MichaelJ, it wouldn’t be uncommon at a state school but I don’t know of any Ivy or comparable school fail that many people.</p>
<p>Having 2/3 of a class fail only means that the teacher’s good at failing people. Something can be hard and still have people succeed, otherwise, what’s the point of even trying?
In my opinion, a student will learn less if they’re constantly struggling to keep up.
Wouldn’t a good prof rather see the majority of students do well then fail? Because otherwise that prof is obviously not as good of a teacher as they’ve set their standerd to.</p>
<p>well i thought payne went to penn… which was the reason i was so surprised so many people were failing. And honestly, it really ruins the point of having a “fail” grade when the vast majority of the class is failing. It just demotivates people who know they’re getting an F anyway… what’s the difference between a 0 and a 63</p>
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<p>I go to Cal Poly San Luis in Engineering. And yeah, I’m not surprised that Ivies or comparable schools don’t fail that many. </p>
<p>I know from several of my friends that Cal eats people alive though. Absolutely brutalizes people…</p>
<p>In general, if most people are failing a class, then it was most likely taught poorly. Even the most difficult of subjects can be taught well – people can also still do well assuming they put forth the effort and have done well in the classes preceding the current. If most people are failing, there is a flaw somewhere along the line. If people struggle all the time, they won’t retain much.</p>