Why you should vote for Obama

<p>rofl…I like how polarize this thread has become.</p>

<p>And I’m about to polarize it more.</p>

<p>Hilary Clinton: Tell me why you do or why you don’t like her.</p>

<p>Just out of curiosity.</p>

<p>"Strengthening the Middle Class</p>

<p>America’s middle class is under siege and ready for change. People are working harder and longer for less and less. For six long years, America’s middle class and working families have been invisible to our president. When Hillary is in the White House, no American will be invisible to the president of the United States." - Always good…</p>

<p>"Providing Affordable and Accessible Health Care</p>

<p>Nearly 47 million Americans – including 9 million children – don’t have health insurance. America is ready for universal health care. Hillary has the vision and the experience to make it a reality. This is a battle Hillary has fought before – and she has the scars to prove it. She knows better than anyone how to fight and build the political support to get the job done." - Indifferent…but could just be a ploy to get votes.</p>

<p>"Ending the War in Iraq</p>

<p>America is ready for a leader who will end the war in Iraq. Hillary’s roadmap out of Iraq, the Iraq Troop Protection and Reduction Act of 2007, is a plan to end the war before the next president takes the oath of office. But if the Bush administration won’t end the war, as president and commander in chief, Hillary will." - Good…:D</p>

<p>"Promoting Energy Independence and Fighting Global Warming</p>

<p>The choices we make about energy touch nearly every aspect of our lives. Our economy, our national security, our health, and the future of our planet are all at stake as we make a choice between energy independence and dependence on foreign sources of oil. Hillary has proposed an Apollo Project-like program dedicated to achieving energy independence." - This is the reason why I know I’m voting Democratic versus Republican…Republicans still don’t believe it’s happening…except for the loony ones saying illegal immigration causes global warming…they scare me…</p>

<p>"Fulfilling Our Promises to Veterans</p>

<p>Hillary will ensure that all those who sacrifice on behalf of our country receive the help and care they need. They not only deserve our country’s gratitude and support; they deserve the gold standard in health care and benefits when they return home. That is our most solemn obligation to those who have put their lives on the line for our country." -Meh, political ploy…no body is going to go against benefits for veterans unless they’re utterly ■■■■■■■■…AKA Bush… :P</p>

<p>"Supporting Parents and Caring for Children</p>

<p>America is ready for a president who fights for our children. From her first job out of law school at the Children’s Defense Fund to her time as First Lady of Arkansas and of the United States to her service in the Senate, helping children has been at the center of Hillary’s public life." - Political ploy…Seriously it shouldn’t be the government helping the children. It’s their parents.</p>

<p>"Restoring America’s Standing in the World</p>

<p>The next president’s most urgent task will be to restore America’s standing in the world to promote our interests, ensure our security, and advance our values. America is stronger when we lead the world through alliances. As president, Hillary will lead by the words of the Declaration of Independence, which pledged “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind.” " - They’re all going to say that pass…</p>

<p>"A Champion for Women</p>

<p>Hillary’s historic statement in 1995 that “women’s rights are human rights” still echoes worldwide. As a lawyer, advocate, First Lady, and senator, Hillary has fought for issues important to women here at home and around the world for decades. Hillary will continue her lifelong fight to ensure that all Americans are treated with respect and dignity. " - Another ploy to get votes…pass.</p>

<p>"Comprehensive Government Reform</p>

<p>Americans are ready for a government that puts competency ahead of cronyism. For the past six years, we’ve had an administration that has contempt for government. And because they view it with contempt, they treat it with contempt. We need a return to transparency and a system of checks and balances, and a 21st century government to meet our 21st century challenges." -Good…woo hoo.</p>

<p>"Strengthening Our Democracy</p>

<p>Fair and honest elections are the bedrock of a successful democracy. Yet we have seen abuses in national elections since 2000 that have undermined our democracy and Americans’ faith in our electoral system. Hillary is a leading champion of election reform. She has introduced the Count Every Vote Act to avoid repeating the problems of the past and ensure the integrity of our elections." - Woo hooo…if she did that how would republicans win elections??? </p>

<p>all quoted from her website.</p>

<p>and they all cant be done, like I said prove it. because even she cant. Sick *****.</p>

<p>and uh Hilary already said we cant end the war in iRaq.</p>

<p>^ … immediately. Phased withdrawals on the other hand…</p>

<p>-Great info Knight</p>

<p>you people are Dreamers. I wont argue with idiots anymore.</p>

<p>O boy, there is a great comeback: name calling!</p>

<p>Boy goat, you really showed me, I guess I’ll stop my liberal ways and become just as conservative as you: insisting on the unification of church and state so we can have…a monarchy! You know, like the ones in England our founding fathers were trying to escape! </p>

<p>I guess you ran out of ridiculous things to say. Pity.</p>

<p>I think its the other way around.</p>

<p>No…this country was founded on the seperation of church and state. Bush is lucky this country isn’t like Turkey is all I can say…</p>

<p>but most people definitely don’t want church and state to merge…that would be ridiculous and against the ideals America was founded upon and preached throughout the centuries.</p>

<p>No it was not, it was later divided. I am all for the re-merger of Church and State.</p>

<p>It was later divided? ***…I think the first amendment didn’t break any precedents. Either that our you’re assuming that somewhere within the extremely weak Articles of Confederation they put church and state should merge? FYI, our money only says “In God we Trust” because some really anti-commies thought it might make the country more not communist.</p>

<p>That’s completely ridiculous. Thomas Jefferson and the First Amendment talk about how there is a seperation of church and state. Merging them is idiotic…look at current examples of merging religion and state such as hmmm AL QAEDA. Your idea is completely foolish, especially because we live in such a diverse nation.</p>

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<p>Really? The other way around from what? You continually ranting (incorrectly) how this was based on a christian nation? We get it, you saying it over and over again doesn’t make it any more true.</p>

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<p>Two problems with this… First, in ths process of “turning the city around”, he basically suspended the second amendment (can someone say, “illegal” or “unconstitutional”?) and instituted various other draconian laws. As has been said many times, “those willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither”. Second, he was the mayor of a city… thats it. Granted, a very large city, but that is still no where near national experience. He has even less national experience than Obama and that’s saying something.</p>

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Our Founding Fathers would seem to disgaree with you…</p>

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<p>"Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. "</p>

<p>-George Washington</p>

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<p>“I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”</p>

<p>-John Adams</p>

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<p>“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. “</p>

<p>-James Madison</p>

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<p>“Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.”</p>

<p>“Original sin is as ridiculous as imputed righteousness.”</p>

<p>“As to Jesus, I have some doubt as to his divinity.”</p>

<p>-Benjamin Franklin</p>

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<p>“Christianity neither is, nor ever was apart of the common law.”</p>

<p>“Christian creeds and doctrines, the clergy’s own fatal inventions, through all the ages has made of Christendom a slaughterhouse, and divided it into sects of inextinguishable hatred for one another.”</p>

<p>“Religions are alike – founded upon fables and mythologies."</p>

<p>“Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.”</p>

<p>“The Christian God is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust.”</p>

<p>“The authors of the gospels were unlettered and ignorant men and the teachings of Jesus have come to us mutilated, misstated and unintelligible.”</p>

<p>-Thomas Jefferson</p>

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<p>“Each of those churches show certain books, which they call revelation, or the word of God. The Jews say, that their word of God was given by God to Moses, face to face; the Christians say, that their word of God came by divine inspiration: and the Turks say, that their word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from Heaven. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”</p>

<p>“As to the Christian system of faith, it appears to me as a species of Atheism — a sort of religious denial of God. It professes to believe in a man rather than in God. It is a compound made up chiefly of Manism with but little Deism, and is as near to Atheism as twilight is to darkness. It introduces between man and his Maker an opaque body, which it calls a Redeemer, as the moon introduces her opaque self between the earth and the sun, and it produces by this means a religious, or an irreligious, eclipse of light. It has put the whole orbit of reason into shade.”</p>

<p>-Thomas Paine</p>

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<p>“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”</p>

<p>-Constitution of the United States of America</p>

<p>^ Wow great finds </p>

<p>Goat is obviously living in a dream world and just rejects other people’s view points without giving them any consideration or acknowledgement. I listed many things and he pretty much just completely ignored them. Oy…</p>

<p>No goat lives in this america</p>

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<p>I like the fact that Obama doesn’t have too much experience in DC as he is not overly tied with lobbyists and cooperate interests.</p>

<p>I like the fact that Obama is a man of faith, but still respects the faiths of others.</p>

<p>I like the fact that Obama is trying to reform health care.</p>

<p>In reading the Audacity of Hope, I like the fact that Obama has a plan for education reform.</p>

<p>I like the fact that Obama does not concede loss in the Iraq war but still realizes we need to get out of their.</p>

<p>I like the fact that Obama can de polarize the nation and bring America into unity.</p>

<p>I like the fact that Obama’s doesn’t allow his race define who he is. As he says " I am not running for the President of Black America but the United States of America" </p>

<p>I like the fact that in his liminted time on the national scence has galvanzied a nation and done something.</p>

<p>and the list goes on…</p>

<p>Im really hoping for a Obama/Edwards ticket in 08</p>

<p>Personally I don’t see any of that…</p>

<p>His outsider appeal, is just a spin of him not having any experience. Basically what Bush did with his cowboy look. </p>

<p>Um…surveys shows that America would vote for a Gay president before an atheist one. I think that might have something to do with him having faith…Plus, it takes a moron to outright say, my religion is right yours is wrong…</p>

<p>Every candidate says they’re going to reform education…they have to…its like the kissing babies picture…and not stomping on puppy dogs.</p>

<p>If Obama did let his race define what he is he’d lose a lot of votes…reason 1 for not doing it.</p>

<p>Obama’s plan for Iraq…Hmm…Peace with honor right? :P</p>

<p>What has he done? He’s given speeches but what legislation has he gotten passed!!! What has he actually done…not what is he talking about doing? </p>

<p>All candidates say they’re going to bring the country together it isn’t that much different. </p>

<p>How does he stand on immigration? or Global Climate change? or Evolution vs. ID? or the US possibly losing its technological advantage? Or the economy? Is he going to rise taxes or is he going to cut them even more? What about gun control? Or letting Jack Thompson live?</p>

<p>Most of the answers can be found in the Audacity of Hope
It is impossible to assume that One man has all the answers
It was kinda hard to get legislation passed in a Replublican controlled congress and I know he’s co authored a couple of bills ( don’t know specifics right now) </p>

<p>Obama’s moderate stance is what makes him most appealing to me. As a Christian, I believe in " morality" but I also refuse to let the conservative " morality" detract my attention from their plans for the poor and education and minority and the middle class. Futhermore, most americans aren’t wholly liberal or conservation but a mixture of them both moderate. </p>

<p>Tritium Knight, a lot of those questions can be asked about most candidates-remember it’s early in the race and as we near primaries every candidate will show his true color.</p>

<p>your post has made me think, and I will research this summer exactly what ALL the candidates stand for on all these issues.</p>

<p>For me, it’s Obama in 08 as of now</p>