<p>Give them (the perps) the ‘Girl with the Dragon Tattoo’ treatment. A bottle smashed over the head will work just fine.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. And it would make for a far better video.</p>
<p>I never got these cat calls, but I never worked in the city either.</p>
<p>I think that Roz Chast has an archival cartoon for every situation. I shared one of my other favorites on that thread that will not be named, and here is the perfect one for this thread. =)) </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/AfghaniGap-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8474863_.htm”>http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/AfghaniGap-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8474863_.htm</a></p>
<p>Hilarious!!</p>
<p>My D (who lives in DC) reported on facebook “Some random man just shouted “Hey, I love your dress!” at me from his car. I’ll take this kind of street harassment any day.” Btw, it was a really cute dress. </p>
<p>You never know, he might not have been trying to harass her. Maybe he wished he had her dress hanging up in his closet.</p>
<p>From Fox News:</p>
<p><a href=“Fox News covered street harassment by catcalling a victim on the air - Vox”>Fox News covered street harassment by catcalling a victim on the air - Vox;
<p>Ya’ know, the whole catcalling and harassing women thing is premised on the assumption is that men deserve to be on the street and are the norm – the standard by which all else is measured. (Just like how “in the old days,” just a few years ago, an announcer would say something like, “Don’t tell your wife this,” assuming all listeners were men.) A woman is not the norm so men believe they are permitted to comment on how she is different – and since all they can know is different is what she looks like, that’s what they’ll comment on.</p>
<p>Hope that made sense. </p>
<p>I’m tired of men being the norm, the standard bearers. They’re not.</p>
<p>And for a good chuckle, where Gloria Steinem turns the “norm” on its head, read her essay “If Men Could Menstruate,” here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.mylittleredbook.net/imcm_orig.pdf”>http://www.mylittleredbook.net/imcm_orig.pdf</a></p>
<p>It’s amazing that round table made it on the air and no men ended up in the ER with body parts arriving separately in little baggies awaiting reattachment.</p>
<p>when I walk up on Capitol hill or down town, I’ve gotten guys telling me they love my shoes, which always cracks me up because I don’t think H would notice if one was brown & one was black.</p>
<p>And I’m sure you know it’s not harassment, there are just a lot of gay guys on Capitol hill. Willing to express their admiration.</p>
<p>I know. 
my daughter used to go to school across from the gay hang out that had a Tinky Winky on the roof when Falwell had his whatever he had.
Plus they passed The Crypt, when they went out to lunch.</p>
<p>Oh no, not a Tinky Winky! How terrifying.</p>
<p>Looking back at my high school experience with the aggressive football player, I suspect that the jerk had some sort of bet going with his followers ( perhaps that he was going to get a little action from me ) When he didn’t get what he was being egged on for, then I became the target of harassment from the group of guys. They made attempts at rumors about me being promiscuous with our rival high school’s football team…yes team. I think initially I was upset , but I joked about it within earshot of some of the boys that were telling the tales. The problem died down quickly and the guy ended up dating a girl that was a friend of mine , despite my warnings to her…this is the same girl that he went to visit at her university and ended up punching holes in the dorm walls when he found out she was out with a group of platonic friends…many years later, I heard that he got physical with his wife and her brothers taught him a lesson …</p>
<p>I still think that most cat callers are harmless and should be ignored</p>
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This mystifying comment is from a number of pages back, and it makes me think that some folks in this conversation just aren’t very familiar with New York. There are tons of men in New York wearing all sorts of bizarre outfits, including revealing ones.</p>
<p>Also, New York is very densely populated, and there are many places that a normal person will want or need to go that nevertheless will have substantial numbers of lowlifes hanging around. Places like, for example, Grand Central Station, Penn Station, Time Square, Fifth Avenue, lots more. Some of these lowlife guys are employed and are around in other areas, as messengers, delivery guys, etc. So while there are “bad areas” where this probably happens even more often, it happens in other areas as well. I’ve seen it, lots of times. Whether New York is worse in this respect than other cities I don’t know, but it may be that there is more contact between lowlife people and non-lowlife people in New York than elsewhere.</p>
<p>I think it becomes important to know how to put a mental “shield” around you in public, though. That’s the benefit I found of growing up in an east coast city (not NY). You become oblivious to things like this, and you learn that they aren’t necessarily directed at you because you’re Oh So Beautiful, but because tacky, low-life people like to be tacky, low-life people. I know when I go on public transportation I go into a zone where I basically ignore everyone around me. Here in the midwest, people will more outwardly smile at strangers. </p>
<p>It’s of course more about them than you, but it can still be frightening if they decide to follow you because they didn’t like your reaction or lack of.</p>
<p>is it possible that different racial and/or socioeconomic groups act differently than others?</p>
<p>should everyone act the way upper-middle class white women want them to act?</p>
<p>New York ranks pretty well worldwide in the street harassment category, better than all the other big cities (better = less harassment). So, this happens a lot more in other cultures.</p>
<p>“should everyone act the way upper-middle class white women want them to act?”</p>
<p>Yes. Next? </p>
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<p>I skipped a couple of pages to comment on this. No, I don’t see that because it is a statement that bears no resemblance whatever to reality. </p>
<p>Full disclosure: I have not watched the whole video. I’m as surprised to hear someone describe the woman as “busty” or “overweight” as “heavily made-up” and dressed provocatively. To my eye, she is a reasonably attractive young woman with an average-looking build wearing standard clothing.</p>
<p>I spend years walking around Manhattan in my twenties and early thirties, often as part of my commute to and from work. I can tell you that a woman in work attire walking in a purposeful manner through the garment district in the morning is going to get TONS of catcalls and attention from the guys pushing the racks around. That is what they do. It is like running the gauntlet. On the other hand, a woman walking to and from Grand Central, either from Rockefeller Center or up and down lower Park Avenue, is not. And yes, the vast majority of guys making such remarks are going to be black and Hispanic. Not black and Hispanic middle class businessmen, but guys either hanging out or engaged in primarily physical labor.</p>