Just to be clear, Duke is a private university and has already released a statement saying that the law has no bearing on its policy.
Anyone who says anything to the contrary is guilty of spreading misinformation. Also, the law will almost certainly be repealed because of the backlash. Just be patient.
@emilybee, a majority of North Carolinians don’t support the law. The legislature does. That’s not the same thing at all. Specially in a state like NC where districts are gerrymandered beyond recognition.
Unfortunately NC hasn’t had great Democratic leadership recently and the Republicans are holding power. While I strongly disagree with this bill, I am not going to quit my job, sell my house and move to another state. I’m going to make my voice heard to get it changed. Same as when Amendment 1 passed. I work for a small business, and I’m very worried this will negatively impact my company - which happens to employ several LGBT individuals. We have many fine companies in this state that are examples of tolerance - Replacments Ltd, whose founder is vocal about equality, is a great example.
Thankfully our Attorney General has the guts to refuse to enforce this bill.
@NerdyChica has a great point about the gerrymandering. Every election there is redistricting that rarely favors liberal voters. And the voting right legislation that recently went into effect disenfranchises mostly liberal voters. NC representatives are not truly representative of the majority of voices in the state.
NC has gone to war with its teachers, its businesses, its tourist industry…but doesn’t represent the people of NC? Who is re-electing these people? People from Ohio? I don’t even know what to say “Also, the law will almost certainly be repealed because of the backlash. Just be patient.”
Patience is what the majority tends to request when it has done something it shouldn’t have, but doesn’t really want to undo it. But I certainly have no room to judge; I live in PA, where we can’t pass a budget, have multiple bankrupt cities, a plundered and empty pension system, a supreme court judge who passes porn around AND GOT A FINE but not removed from the bench, the AG had her license suspended (presumably in a gotcha campaign headed by said porn-passing judge)…and we are also gerrymandered to bits. Literally.
In NH, the legislature doesn’t get paid (except for mileage) and only meets for part of the year. Yes, please!
And NC will face a showdown as well, with colleges, with big employers, etc who don’t want their employees and customers to be adversely impacted.
Why are people so darned interested in someone else’s bidness!?! Leave people alone. If the gal in the next stall has a different chromosomal make up…what is that to me? Live and let live!!! (Or as they said in the old days: live free or die!). You either believe in it, or you don’t. You don’t get to “protect” your freedoms by restricting someone else’s! Next time, they will be restricting yours!
What gets me is countless number of folks who “claim” transgender individuals will be molesters or peeping individuals in the bathrooms. Yet every story in this area of some horrific molestation of a child in a bathroom, or some peeping tom has always been someone was heterosexual, but lets not let statistics get in the way.
"Just to be clear, Duke is a private university and has already released a statement saying that the law has no bearing on its policy.
Anyone who says anything to the contrary is guilty of spreading misinformation. Also, the law will almost certainly be repealed because of the backlash. Just be patient.
@emilybee, a majority of North Carolinians don’t support the law. The legislature does. That’s not the same thing at all. Specially in a state like NC where districts are gerrymandered beyond recognition."
No one has said Duke is going to implement this policy. But Duke students don’t live in a bubble. They leave campus and go out into the community every once in awhile - like to restaurants, bars, stores, etc. So, the law will indeed impact students at Duke.
A majority of people in NC voted for the Governor - who signed this bill so quickly after passage the ink wasnt even dry.
It’s going to cost NC millions to defend a law that will undoubtably be ruled unconstitutional. This state thinks nothing of that yet takes chopping blocks to everything else in their budget. And the people of NC keep electing them to office. Sorry, but that speaks volumes to me.
North Carolina had been a shiny star of the south awhile back and then they took a sudden right turn back to the 50’s.
I read that in NC it’s largely the rural areas that support it, and the urban that do not (esp triangle). And…that when companies like Paypal cancel expansions and states cancel conventions and so on, it most directly impacts the urban triangle areas. This was a calculation that was part of the decision to pass the law
Yes, Georgia’s governor vetoed.
Mississippi and Tennessee just put similar, or worse, laws on the books. So consider Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, etc students now too.
I live in the northeast. Not only would this law never pass- the idea of such a law would never be brought up for discussion. My liberal kid is currently in NC, in a liberal part of the state. She feels right at home. This area of NC is actually more liberal than the town in which I live, inside my liberal state.
As I mentioned earlier, the professors and students have vocalized their opinions against this law. They held a huge protest against the woman in charge of the UNC system. This is a campus of activists- they do not sit back and watch. They get involved, very involved. My daughter loves her school and community. She is not about to leave. The universities will not go down in quality.
Some OOS families have questioned the political climate on campus. Once they speak to people on campus and in the surrounding areas they are relieved.
I am really really happy to hear that Duke and others are going to comply with nondiscrimination policies and continued acceptance of gender identity!! I had heard that the AG wasn’t going to defend the law but I was stunned reading that UNC Chapel Hill was going to comply fully with the law. More states I hear are trying to quickly implement these laws …It all seems completely unconstitutional but at the very least this will take years to make its way to SCOTUS where there aren’t even 9 judges anymore… hard to watch innocent kids suffer in the process!!
My son is about to go to a school that was selected one of the top LGBT friendly schools in the country; still twice now in trying to find a roommate he has been told (after they agreed to be roommates) that they can’t or aren’t allowed by their parents to room with him soley because he is gay. It hurt.
Its a state that doesn’t have sexual orientation/ gender identity protection included, but he is told the school and city has a nondiscrimination clause so if this happens after random room selection he won’t be forced to leave the room. Cant imagine if that state suddenly declared all nondiscrimination inclusive of lgbt null and void.
It gives me hope to see that some of the universities are not going to comply while this plays out in the courts!!
I think UNC-CH is complying because it is public and the head of the UNC system is somebody brand new who worked under George Bush. She is complying but so far is not really talking about anything…the last time I checked she said she had to learn more.
The professors and students at UNC are talking, as I previously wrote.
Do people in states like Mississippi honestly not know that they are already the laughing stock of the nation because they are so bottom of the barrel in education, health, etc? And that they are net takers? So then what possesses them to cement their reputation as backwards by pulling stuff like this?
We were going to visit Ole Miss for a getaway weekend, despite all my misgivings about rural red state life. Rethinking that one, for sure.
Unfortunately, it seems that Charlotte, whose local law against LGBT discrimination prompted the reaction from the state government, may bear much of the loss, even though Charlotte is more LGBT-friendly than much of the rest of the state. (The PayPal facility was intended to be in Charlotte.)
So very true! My daughter was considering Elon, but as a gay young woman anything in North Carolina (and in the south altogether) it’s now off of her list. I’m glad Elon issued that statement, but we wouldn’t send our money to a state that supports such a backward law.
UNC, a public university in NC, is being REQUIRED to follow this discriminatory bill.
Margaret Spellings, the new President of the UNC System (NC), is requiring all state schools follow House Bill HB2 . Our universities have no choice. The UNC campuses have had many protests regarding this discriminatory bill. I have students at three UNC schools that actively support the rights of the LGBTQ+ community. I wouldn’t be worried about sending an LGBTQ+ student to one of the well-known UNC schools. Those communities, for the most part, are horrified a bill like HB2 was quickly run through the system and passed. Schools have already turned single-occupancy restrooms into gender-nuetral restrooms.
Given the backlash of government and business plus the NC Attorney General stating he is refusing to defend the bill, hopefully it will be overturned.
I think there is little question that people who still want to discriminate against LGBTQ are destined to end up in the dustbin of history, at least as far as public policy goes. Obviously there will always be bigots of all kinds no matter the law. But these states are throwing wailing fits in their last desperate throes of resistance and ignorance.
But is UNC as a state school really required to follow this law as the law violates Title IX … does a state school have to comply with a law that violates a federal law?
