Would I have gotten in if I were not Black?

<p>I especially like the way some people completely missed the point and simply reiterated (in less thoughtful form) the points you were trying to refute in the previous thread.</p>

<p>I am not exactly sure what you mean christian soldier.</p>

<p>Some people have ignored the point of this thread and said, “Well, you would be a good candidate, but you’re also black! And since you’re black, you can’t lose!” They completely missed the point isn’t to say that you’re black and great, the point is to say that you’re just great and black has nothing to do with it.</p>

<p>Yeah, that was the aim. But at the same time I understand what people were saying. Being black is a big boost, but I know I could have gotten in even if I was Asian.</p>

<p>Quite the laundry list you’ve got there. You should condense it for the sake of modesty…</p>

<p>But, the high academic achievement alongside forensics, band, athletics, and research sounds way too familiar to me (i.e., it reminds of the peeps from my high school who flock in droves to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton).</p>

<p>I’m going to say no, though, due to the ACT without complementing SAT IIs.</p>

<p>But, that’s Yale’s peculiar policy. It’s Amherst’s as well, but in my own opinion if candidates decide to submit the ACT over the SAT Reasoning Exam, SAT Subject Tests should be required as well. Not your fault, anyway.</p>

<p>It’s difficult to say whether you would have gotten in to Yale specifically, but you would have gotten into a tip-top university. Thus, don’t feel entitled to be at Yale, because that attitude is… obnoxious, considering the caliber of your fellow classmates and the overall applicant pool.</p>

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<p>You’re wrong. I happen to know that many students that submit the ACT don’t send the SAT. I also happen to know that the Yale adcom doesn’t take issue with an applicant just submitting the ACT – especially when said ACT score is higher than 25% of the enrolled class and two points above the median. </p>

<p>Good thing you’re not an adcom. SAT Subject tests along with the ACT are redundant. The ACT tests general knowledge of a standard high school curriculum. It’s sufficient, which is why Yale doesn’t require that its applicants submit Subject tests in addition to the ACT.</p>

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<p>Quoted for truth.</p>

<p>I know of some URMs from our high school with stats and ECs equivalent or better who have been turned down by Ivy league schools. If I compare you to the URM kids I have seen rejected from top schools, if I were an admissions officer I would say that what stood out for me was your Target experience. I liked that it topped your list of activities; I liked that it was such a mundane job for such a braniac and athelete. It shows work ethic, commitment, and patience (trust me the adcoms can relate to working a thankless job). Remind yourself when you start to think that you got in because you are “black”… it could also be that you got in (stood out from the huge pack of bright kids applying) because you are a Target employee…why not? they are probably more rare than the hundreds of brilliant URMs applying to Yale. So…if someone says (as I hear constantly about my son) “he got (will get) in because he is a minority”, turn the other cheek and remember any one and all of your qualities was what made you an outstanding candidate for admission. Honestly, I am sure that a kid who worked his summers at Target will be a more successful Yale grad compared to the dozens of kids who flew to Ecuador to work with orphans while sightseeing and exploring the Andes. That’s what Yale wants–when you put Yale 2013 on your resume and that will reflect well on Yale. </p>

<p>What I fear is that hardworking, smart, and willing-to-work-any-job-and-be-proud-of-it young men are an under-represented minority not only at Yale, but everywhere!</p>