Yale 2023 Applicants Discussion

@TheGuy1: A quota is defined as “a number, amount, or share that is officially allowed or necessary.”

Yale Admissions does NOT have a quota for first gens. However, they do have a “plus factor” for first-gens. After being a member of CC for nine years, and sending one kid to Yale and another to Harvard, I’ve learned that you should take a college at it’s word: https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2019/02/12/students-split-on-admissions-plus-factors/

@gibby Agreed they dont have a quota by definition, but by the numbers, it really looks like the value and uphold 1st Gens to a certain degree, to which there is no dispute.

“The University uses a variety of such factors, including being a recruited intercollegiate athlete, identifying as a first-generation college student, coming from a low-income background, being a member of an underrepresented racial or ethnic group or having “extraordinary creative ability,” as evaluated by Yale faculty members.”

Agreed. But this doesnt mean the apps with factors included above dont get an admissions preference. THey clearly do. It’s for a +ve motive, but has -ve implications for other apps.

I got deferred in SCEA round and am pretty sure I won’t be accepted for RD either. Wishing that my birthday wasn’t Ivy Day and wishing I had spent less time worrying about grade percentages when it officially feels like it does not make a difference anymore. Good luck to everyone as decisions keep coming out!! Trying to trust that things will work out how they are supposed to, but it’s hard with the college admissions scandal and everything coming out. Yikes sorry for the rant, but lmk if anyone else feels the same way.

@college17013 Wow your birthday is Ivy Day?! I definitely understand that there are both pros and cons to that. But happy early birthday! I really hope you are able to celebrate amidst the craziness and that you have a great birthday. Wishing you the best!!! :sparkles:??

@kimtaehyung Thank you! And yes, best case scenario I get a pretty fantastic birthday present. But otherwise, I’ve already been accepted to a couple safeties I love, which I am really thankful for. Planning on finishing some of my classes early (I do online school) so that helps make senioritis short lived!

Hey, y’all. My anatomy teacher (and chief recommender) told me yesterday that last week a SO from Yale called and asked her interview-esque questions, especially about her involvement, in preparation for a “committee” hearing. Some of you are on the Harvard forum and know that I was presented to the Full Committee there, but I am both unsure of Yale’s process (whether or not it works in the same way) and what this “committee” and the purpose of the call may be. Any elucidating comments?

@jordanheston They want clarification and more insight from the LOR she sent Yale.

You’re being evaluated by the committee, and/or by your regional coordinator right now and they’ll be deciding your decision after the call gets over and they have the additional data they need.

It might end well , or not.

Depends on their decision after the call, and after analyzing the relevant data with the new gathered ones.

This is for sure, youre not out yet.

^^About 6,000 “finalists” (SCEA and RD) make it to Committee. 794 students have been accepted SCEA, so that leaves between 1400 to 1500 spots. Good luck!

So 1400-1500 of the 6K are chosen right? This doesnt include the SCEA finalists/admits?
@BKSquared

Yale targets about 2,250 total acceptances. My understanding is 6,000 make it to Committee including SCEA and RD applicants. I don’t know the breakdown of the number that make it to the SCEA Committee vs the RD Committee because the nature of the pools are different (athletic recruits, development cases, high proportion of legacies), but if we just assume rough proportionality, it would be about 4,000 in the RD Committee.

@BKSquared THanks a lot for the numbers!

@BKSquared So, at this stage, I know at least I have made it to their final round and that, purely mathematically, I have around a 36% chance of acceptance being in the RD Committee stage? How different is this process from Harvard’s Final Committee?

@BKSquared do i understand you to mean all legacies (at least those of a certain objective metric) get to the Committee? Thanks.

@jordanheston, I don’t know the breakdown between applicants making it to the SCEA Committee and the RD Committee. The SCEA applicant pool as I noted previously is different because of the factors I listed. In addition, Yale historically has noted that the pool is stronger in the SCEA round, and that is one of the reasons why admit rates are higher in that round. Does that mean proportionately higher numbers also make it to Committee then, maybe. Or do the recruits and development cases mean less candidates go to the SCEA Committee because that group of strongly hooked applicants have acceptances almost wrapped up (e.g. subtract 200-250 SCEA admitted students from the 794 to get the number of “normal” applicants admitted). The only thing we can safely assume is that your chances now are way, way above the normal RD rate. Unless things have changed in the last couple of years for Yale, there is only 1 Committee of fewer members than Harvard.

@Ctdoctor , legacies are guaranteed a second reader (many non-legacy candidates get thrown out after just 1 read), but not guaranteed that they move on after that. I note the high legacy content in the SCEA round, not because legacies have to apply that round to get the legacy edge (vs Penn), but historically many do so (this is from Admissions). Also, purely based on anecdotes and an educated speculation, the stronger legacy kids tend to apply early because who doesn’t want to get into one of their top choices early so you can potentially avoid a lot of stress second semester senior year.

@kimtaehyung , thank you so much for your advice and kind words. i will definitely take that into consideration while i ponder abt college decisions in the next few weeks.

@DodosAreDead , i remember you too!! and all QB finalists get nearly 100% of tuition, room/board, expenses, etc. covered by the college, and in some cases, the complete 100%. it would depend on your family income and circumstances. im hoping if i do get into yale, all of it would be covered.

i also applied to rice, since i live about an hour and a half away and basically go to houston weekly, and they have the new rice investment beginning next year !! so if i end up getting accepted to both, i would have a really tough choice to make, but im preparing for the worst since my chances are slim to none at this point, being deferred and all. if anyone in this thread has also applied to rice and/or happens to know when decisions come out, hit me up !!

again, thank you both and best of luck to both of you !!! also, sorry for replying like ten days late, ap classes are in full gear now??

Hello horncollege,
oh thank you so so much:) !!!
I’m only 15 years old and also an asian girl. I really really want to apply to Yale since I was 13 or 14. I’m very ambitious, but sometimes I have the feeling that I can’t do it. I mean…I’m very average and I have the feeling, that my preparation is very late. but thank you again for your nice encouragement:) ! Can you please tell when you was preparing for Yale and how good your marks are:) .
Thank you a lot:)
-Collegina

So quiet…

@BKSquared Do you know which step of the process, early applicants are deferred? Did all deferred applicants get a second read and then deferred and did they go to main committee before deferral? Pretty curious about this in general!

THey get a 2nd read (after the early decision day, and before the Ivy Day, sometime), though the admit rate for REA defers is way too lower than RD admits. I cant pinpoint why, but its easy to predict.

Defers arent read a second time within the early cycle, as that makes no sense. THey may be presented again in front of the full committee again and again, but thats nothing special to defers.

I believe you have the full process slightly twisted.

@popeyes653

REA apps are deferred on the early notification day 12/14/2018 for Yale this cycle.

So this happens between Nov 1 and about a week before early decisions.

Them going to the main committee depends. THey mostly do, but sometimes the regional officer can directly decide the fate (uncommonly)

@Collegina just be aware that most ivies practice reverse discrimination against asians, and set a hard cap at ~20% asian students. Thus, you will need a stellar application. California has made race profiling illegal, so their ivies have a much higher % of asians.