Yale vs. Umich(ross)

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@Alexandre

1. The USNWR does not include state appropriations and their impact on financial aid in their Financial Resources Ranking. Michigan’s financial standing is clearly among the top 15 in the US, arguably among the top 10. Its endowment of $8.4 billion is 6th largest in the land. When you factor in the $300 million in state appropriations, it is like adding $6 billion to the endowment. Other than HYPS, I cannot think of any university that has more financial resources than Michigan. Even on a per student basis, Michigan would be among the top 15 (with no real difference separating #10 from #15), and that would not take economies of scale and efficiencies into account.

Alexandre, can you prove that USNWR doesn’t take into account Endowment Per Capita when calculating the Financial Resources category or is this just a mere conjecture on your part? No one seems to know how the Financial Resources section is calculated since USNWR doesn’t reveal that.</p>

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@Alexandre

The first year the survey was released, MSU was ranked in the top 50 while Michigan was not ranked in the top 100. The second year saw MSU drop out of the top 80 and Michigan jump in the top 100. It is fairly evident that many of those Europeans confused the two and rated MSU under the assumption it was Michigan. Eliminate confusion from the survey and Michigan would be ranked among the top 15 US universities.

Your logic doesn’t make sense. I agree that some confusion probably exists but if you average out the fluctutations between Michigan and MSU’s rankings, you would get a combined ranking of a barely top 50 US institution. You can’t just proclaim that Michigan would be top 15 is MSU didn’t exist since MSU shouldn’t be that well known anyway so its presence shouldn’t affect things much.</p>

<p>If Michigan was already ranked in the top 25 and MSU was ranked in the top 50, then an adjusted composite ranking of top 15 would make sense with the MSU confusion removed.</p>

<p>At any rate, all the Ivies, Chicago, Caltech, Duke, Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, UCLA, and Berkeley are all more internationally renowned than UMich. There is simply no denying this.</p>