Young versus old people in quiz about statements of fact versus opinion

@momtogkc: I got 10/10, but feel the same way. What constitutes “significant” is a question of opinion, not fact.

10 out of 10, bam!

Opinion: this must mean I’m not really an old fogey yet :wink:

Fact: my kids have had units in schools where they had to differentiate between opinion and fact as well.

So you’re saying that if the statement had said, “Obama was not born in the United States,” it still would have been a factual statement? I think most people would have said that’s an opinion. The problem then is that we’re marking the statements as True or False, not on whether something can be proved or disproved as a fact.

I would have labelled it a false factual statement.

Even though it makes my brain hurt.

“False factual statement” was not an option!

“Obama was not born in the US” is a statement of fact. It’s wrong, but that’s a different issue. Fact v. Opinion has to do with the nature of the statement, not with whether you think it’s accurate.

Then I"m confused about just about every question.

The statement (and I’m paraphrasing) that illegal immigrants have no rights under the Constitution is factually false. Therefore I labeled it an opinion. But it is either a true or false statement – so it’s factual??

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10/10 for me, though I did pause for thought about the abortion question.

@VeryHappy pretty sure that the phrasing mattered and that it was that illegal immigrants have some rights under the constitution. Which is a true and factual statement.

I’m not sure that any of the statements were false facts, without people twisting credible stats into pretzels anyway.

It was a stupid quiz. Like others have said, it is more to do with the nature of the statement as opposed to the truth of the statement. Things like someone’s birth place are facts – you are either born in a place or not. Or X is the biggest part of the budget, etc. Things like the “greatest” from of government or “wasteful and inefficient” government are opinions, but can be supported by facts.

For those interested, politifact has a chart and explanation about discretionary and mandatory spending and how looking at only discretionary skews the percentages used for some memes.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/17/facebook-posts/pie-chart-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/

10/10 and they all seemed obvious, but I have an almost OCD level of disdain for opinion presented as fact.

I read the comics and do the puzzles in the newspaper. News makes me too depressed.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ attempts to do that for news organizations, though not individual articles.

Correct. That is a factual (wrong) statement, as opposed to an opinion statement, which would be: “I believe Obama was not born in the US…”

I wasn’t sure about “illegal immigrants have some rights under the Constitution” - answered it was a factual statement, but of course we all know the Constitution can have different interpretations.

^^as an example, Illegal immigrants do have a ‘right’ to public education per the Supreme’s interpretation of the US Constitution.

@bluebayou: Strictly speaking, “I believe Obama was not born in the US” is also a fact statement, it’s just a fact statement about someone’s beliefs rather than about Obama’s birth place. Contrast, “We should investigate Obama’s birth place,” which is a statement about preferences and therefore an opinion.

I have a headache.

@VeryHappy: Fact statement!

I got 10/10. I focus on word choice and not the meaning of the sentence.