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Brown Class of 2023 Applicants Discussion

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  • arpirockarpirock 26 replies1 threads Junior Member
    They have in the past, I don't see why they wouldn't this time around.
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  • TheGuy1TheGuy1 926 replies5 threads Member
    @kimtaehyung They do by Feb-End. But its only ~100 ish for non athletes. So almost all admits get to know that in march itself.
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  • just444444444just444444444 0 replies0 threads New Member
    brown does do likely letters
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  • xmas19xmas19 62 replies0 threads Junior Member
    Only 5 weeks to go now!
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  • mrbhuismrbhuis 26 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Does anyone know of a specific date that likely letters go out? I am thinking odds are very slim my child would receive one, but it is her first choice (if we can afford it).
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  • intricuitintricuit 55 replies1 threads Junior Member
    edited February 2019
    :0 Congrats @LLAMALOVER101 ! Do you live on the east coast near Providence? What date is the letter marked or postmarked?
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  • anya00anya00 45 replies0 threads Junior Member
    edited February 2019
    @LLAMALOVER101 Congratulations! Only in the mail or email as well?
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  • LLAMALOVER101LLAMALOVER101 37 replies13 threads Junior Member
    @intricuit I live in the midwest. It is postmarked Feb. 7. I think I got the likely letter because I was deferred in the early decision round.
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  • LLAMALOVER101LLAMALOVER101 37 replies13 threads Junior Member
    @anya00 It was only in the mail. Not in my email or the portal. I still just see my deferral notification... I hope the letter means I got in lol.
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  • LLAMALOVER101LLAMALOVER101 37 replies13 threads Junior Member
    Does anyone know if there is a GroupMe or something from Early Decision that I could join to meet people attending next year?
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  • PatriotsFan007PatriotsFan007 8 replies1 threads New Member
    Hey everyone,
    I'm a RD applicant to Brown, and my 6 semester GPA was 4.5, however, I transferred schools my senior year (I have never moved before), and I struggled a lot, so my grades toppled. They weren't too bad, but they weren't great either. When Brown sees this, will they understand? Should I email the Admissions Office giving them a heads up abut this, or include a quick heads-up explanation in a Google Doc and submit it as a piece of supplementary material?
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  • TheGuy1TheGuy1 926 replies5 threads Member
    @PatriotsFan007 You could do that. It certainly doesnt hurt. The AdCom does understand this and would eval you accordingly, and this can go under genuine reasons for a drop in performance, but I'm not sure how strongly that reason weighs compared to reasons like 'missing most of your term and test due to an important matter that wasnt missable (or a very rare opp. that had to be taken which made you miss school)' or 'serious illness/family matter'. It depends on how well you explain it. Also, it will weigh strongly enough in most cases for no negative reaction if an app can get an official letter from the relevant school sent regarding this matter to be sent by their end to the AdCom. I talked to an AdCom from an Ivy regarding this (not Brown) and she said this. SO I guess it values a bit if the app sends a valid reason, but it will almost definitely help negate the effect if an authority such as a school sends this reason from their end too.

    Hope this helps. I believe I didnt explain a few points too clearly, so if any clarification is needed, PM me or @ me right here.

    Thanks!
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  • PatriotsFan007PatriotsFan007 8 replies1 threads New Member
    edited February 2019
    @TheGuy1 Thank you so much!
    I transferred schools because of a very personal family matter, and being senior year, it definitely was not easy. If I were to give my behalf of the reasoning, should I email the Admissions, or include it as a piece of supplementary material in my Brown portal? Also, how would a school official, such as my guidance counselor, send in their behalf as well if I chose to go that route?
    Thank you again!
    edited February 2019
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  • Nocreativity1Nocreativity1 1112 replies55 threads Senior Member
    @PatriotsFan007 just switching schools isn't a viable "excuse" nor can a letter with an explanation from an "authority" "definitely help "negate the effect" as @TheGuy1 suggests. You need to address the circumstances thoughtfully to not cast doubt on your ability to thrive academically at a school like Brown.

    Think about what going to Brown as a freshman would be... It is going to a new school that is even more challenging that what you are currently attending. The exact circumstances you say have now caused your grades to decline.

    Suggesting that you don't tolerate change well or didn't fair well when the academic bar was raised will trigger concerns. You likely will have to focus on why you needed to move and how that impacted you.

    This is not the venue from which to take advice of this nature. Talk to your current guidance counselor and seek professional advice. Share with that person why your grades have suffered beyond change of location (worst excuse possible).

    Wishing you luck in successfully completing senior year.
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  • PatriotsFan007PatriotsFan007 8 replies1 threads New Member
    @Nocreativity1 I never said my transfer was the sole reason for why my grades declined. There were a number of things, and I did talk to my school's college counselor, and she said it would be best to reach out and explain my situation, and yes, like you said, explain how this changed me and what I now know to do better second semester. Also, if you read my original question and even my response to @TheGuy1, my biggest concern is how to do this (Google Doc as Supplementary Material or Email Admissions Directly), not take advice on how to explain this.

    Also, to anyone who has changed locations and their grades declined, it is not the "worst excuse possible". There are many reasonings as to why a student moves, and those reasonings can hold an even deeper issues to the student. Brown sees that I switched schools on my transcript, but they don't know why, The "why" was the reasoning behind my grades declining, so I was wondering if I should reach out and explain it to them, because it would give them a better understanding as to who I am.

    However, even if a student does not have a significant, life-changing "why" as to why they switched schools, (i.e. like their parents just needed a bigger home) it can still take a toll on the student and their grades. Moving schools is a huge deal for young adults, especially if they're like me, who has never moved before. You are leaving your childhood home, friends, family, everything. Instead of celebrating and enjoying school with your friends, you are in a completely new setting with nobody. It's extremely, emotionally painful. And it's not like going to college, because at least at college, there are freshmen who are also going through the same thing and in the same boat as you -- feeling homesick. It's not uncommon.

    There is no "worst excuse possible" as to why a student's grades decline. Everyone is different, and everyone feels different things. Yes, some students can transfer schools and still get good grades, some can't. Some can't handle the pressure or the initial pain of it, and there shouldn't be any judgements from outside sources. Unless you were also a transfer, you have no right to call a change of location the "worst excuse possible" because you have no idea what the student is going through or feeling. And it doesn't mean they don't have the ability to adapt to change, it could mean they have so much going on that they struggled focusing in school, mourning, grieving, dealing with their "why" for moving, meeting new people, adjusting to a new teaching style, new grading system, a new life for a teenager. Nobody is superman and not everyone can overcome all those things in just a few months, and it becomes overwhelming, causing a student to not be able to 100% focus in school and a decline in GPA.

    If a student had clinical depression in, lets say sophomore year, and their grades toppled because of it, does that make it the "worst excuse possible"? I don't know, because I never went through that my sophomore year. A girl in my Lit class said she was diagnosed with it during soph. year, and she actually did okay in school, however I am sure there are other students who didn't. I can't call that type of thing the "worst excuse possible" for the drop in GPA for those other students, because I didn't live through the same situation. Nobody's situation is the "best" or "worst" in terms of how there GPA is. There is no room for judgement, just understanding.

    Anyways, I appreciate your response. Best of luck in your life as well.
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  • Nocreativity1Nocreativity1 1112 replies55 threads Senior Member
    edited February 2019
    ^ So the good news is you seem to know all the answers. Bad news is I have a fair bit of first hand specific knowledge around Brown's admissions process. This includes seeing "has a hard time with transition" written on evaluations along with decline.

    Going to college will be a change of location, that is a certainty. When you state...

    "to anyone who has changed locations and their grades declined, it is not the "worst excuse possible".

    And

    "You are leaving your childhood home, friends, family, everything. Instead of celebrating and enjoying school with your friends, you are in a completely new setting with nobody. It's extremely, emotionally painful"

    Guess what that's freshman year. AOS don't care about feelings they care about your capacity to thrive academically. A proven track record of decline under stress and change is a red flag.

    That is why my suggestion was to provide context through a professional.

    You win it's top 5 worst... not the worst.

    I wish you well and you can correct me in person in Providence next year.
    edited February 2019
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    MODERATOR'S NOTE:
    Might I remind members of the forum rules: "Our forum is expected to be a friendly and welcoming place." Several posts deleted.
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  • ashley_2023ashley_2023 37 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Hi everyone I have a question. It probably signifies nothing but I feel like it won’t hurt to ask. I was deferred ED and had a financial doc uploaded that was requested by Brown, but they didn’t process it (it was unprocessed during the 2-3 weeks leading up to decisions). Now, I checked my portal a few days ago and saw that they processed it. Do you think this is a good sign? I’m just curious about what you all think.
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