Could I get into Andover/Exeter

eekeek · June 21

So I go to one of the (if not THE) best private school in Hawaii. However, I feel as it is not enough as a challenge for me. The other day, I stumbled upon Exeter and Andover. If anyone could review my stats down below and tell me if if it is probable that I get in as a girl applying for 9th grade. Thanks!

Academics:
I am a straight A student (with one A-

but that's ok I guess). I do pretty well in school. I maintain good test scores and percentages in class. I have a passion for math, science, and computer science. I was also put into my school's math honors program.

Language:
I speak Mandarin Chinese at home, so needless to say, I'm fluent in that. In school, I take French. Recently, I won first in state and second in country for the National French Contest, so that's pretty good. Still not sure whether I'll take French or Chinese in high school

EC's:
Ok don't judge me. I literally joined half of these programs either cause my friends were doing it or because it looked fun. Nevertheless, I enjoy every single one of them. I dance ballet and hula. I am on my school's MathCounts team and want to join the robotics team. I run cross country and track. I quit swimming and tennis recently but am looking to pick both up during my 8th grade year. I also play violin (idk if that counts as an extra-curricular).

Music:
As mentioned before, I play violin and I sit first chair in the second violin section of my school's orchestra. Currently, I am taking private lessons (Suzuki book 3 almost 4 plz don't make fun of me ik I'm bad) and I want to pursue violin throughout my high school years.

SSAT:
So I haven't taken the SSAT yet, but the last time I took it (to get into my current school) I got 99% overall 98% math 96% verbal and 99% reading. I took a practice test today and I got none wrong on the math part, like 4 wrong on reading, and hella bad on verbal.

So if there's any more information that might be important to applying to Andover/Exeter, please let me know. Also, please be honest (it's okay to say that I would be the last person they would want) and tell me if they would accept a student like me. (Also tips and tricks! I need those.)

cmbyn02 · June 21

You are a really well rounded student @eekeek ! You have a slight advantage because you are from Hawaii ( not sure how many people attend PA and PEA from Hawaii) and that means geographic diversity! Have you tried looking into other schools as well, there are many great school like Exeter and Andover out there. Casting a wide net and applying to 4-5 schools can ensure that you have a better chance of getting to go to boarding school (if that's what you're after). I would try to take the SSAT early, because practice tests can be deceiving, just to give yourself enough time to take it again if needed. I was accepted to Exeter with fewer EC's than you, so you totally have a chance! Good Luck, and remember that no matter the results you are a great student.

skieurope · June 21

I'm going to take a more cautious approach.

One thing that you have going against you is being an overrepresented minority. And a violin playing one at that.

But the biggest concern that I have is that you have not expressed why you want to attend Andover/Exeter, and equally important, what you bring these schools that other applicants can't. Your current lack of challenge is not a reason. You are in (or finishing) 7th grade. HS is nothing like MS. I'm assuming your current school is K-12, since all the strong HI privates are K-12. So the upper part of your current school may offer you all the challenges you want and more. And if you are truly attending the best school, it can arguably only be Punahou or 'Iolani. If one of those is not your current school, then you should check those out, as either can potentially offer you the same challenges as Andover/Exeter. Otherwise, you need to craft a better "Why Andover/Exeter" statement.

I do agree with the above poster, though. If boarding school is right for you, you need to cast a wide net beyond those 2 fine schools. Good luck.

mairlodi · June 21

I went to a HYPM in the northeast and my best friend in college was from Hawaii (Punahou). Academically, she had no issues, so Punahou obviously prepared her well, as @skieurope noted.

She had a significant amount of culture shock coming to the NE from Hawaii, which had a huge impact on her college years.

It may be something to strongly consider as you consider BS. My friend often expressed some regret that she did not choose a college on the West Coast, which would have allowed her to go home for shorter vacations like Thanksgiving.

She also felt that the West Coast would have been more of a middle ground culturally and weather- wise between Hawaii and the northeast.

eekeek · June 21

@cmbyn02 Thanks! I'm not currently looking into other schools because, frankly, they just don't interest me. I guess if I don't get in, I'll just continue at my current school. But anyways, do you remember what you got on the SSAT? Very very nervous that I flop that. And also what's the social life like at Exeter?

@skieurope Wow, you sure know a lot about Hawaiian private schools! The main reason I want to go to Andover or Exeter is actually because of their computer science program. (Did a lil research last night and many of their courses seem very appealing to me) Exeter, especially, has a lot of STEAM classes that seem super cool and I would learn a lot from. Idk if that's a good "Why Exeter/Andover" statement, so if it isn't, please let me know. But as for what I can offer to the school that the candidates cannot...... I'm not completely sure. I guess I really like to help others and I can balance my good grades with making friends with a lot of people (sorry if I sound conceited). Ummmmm I guess I'm a pretty good leader without bossing people around. idkkkkkkkkkk I've always struggled with this part of the application.

eekeek · June 21

@skieurope Also Harkness discussions. I did it once with the only teacher that does it in my school, and it was just 100/10

skieurope · June 21

Also Harkness discussions.

FYI, Andover does not have Harkness. They have similar type discussions in humanities classes, but so do a lot of other schools. But you never want to say in an interview that you're attracted to something that the school does not offer. While both Andover and Exeter (and many others) are strong in STEM, Exeter arguably is a bit stronger than Andover in math and CS.

cmbyn02 · June 21

@eekeek You were wondering about my SSAT scores, so here they are! 98 overall- 93Q/99R/92V

eekeek · June 21

@mairlodi That's pretty cool! I guess culture won't be THAT different because I'm originally from SF and my brother went to college in Massachusetts and I visited him pretty often.

eekeek · June 21

Could someone chance me?

kafkatamura · June 27

@eekeek You're extremely well-rounded. While you mention your prowess at violin and your national French title, remember that much like college, these schools do not need well rounded students, but rather well-rounded classes. Applications should have a central point, something that connects the classes, extracurriculars, and other aspects. Speaking as someone entering Andover next year, my points were that I wanted greater diversity in my life and that I wanted somewhere that would allow me to learn in greater depth. You definitely have a strong application, but I also don't see community service anywhere in your post, which is something that is very important for BS. You should also seek out ECs that can provide tangible accolades demonstrating your academic and extracurricular talents. You have a solid chance, but in order to make it a stronger one, consider some of these things.

eekeek · June 28

@kafkatamura Thanks! I did admission tour guides for my school, (which I guess is community service because I got hours for it), but I'm also thinking of volunteering at my local library and Humane Society. Do you recommend any clubs or extra-curriculars? (Also does National Junior Honor Society make any difference?)

marcellasne · June 28

Just wanted to add on--don't just join clubs/find ECs for admissions purposes. It'll show.

CaliMex · June 28

Do Exeter and Andover both have competitive swimming programs? Not all schools do.
I know that Mercersburg is especially well known for swimming, and perhaps Peddie, too?

gardenstategal · June 28

^^Yes, Peddie is big time in swimming!
In individual sports, as long as the coaching is good, the facilities are convenient, and the schedule allows you to work out most of the year, how competitive the program is may not matter as much as in a sport where your progress and "notability " will be determined by the quality of your team. Of course, it helps when your teammates can push you, but plenty of excellent swimmers and T&F stars come out of good, but not exceptional programs. Much less so for football, soccer, lax, etc.

CaliMex · June 28

Most schools have tennis and cross country. Not all schools have swimming.

gardenstategal · June 28

^Exeter and Andover both have swimming as a sport. Most do have it although as you note, a few do not. (And oddly, some of those have decent pools!)

eekeek · June 29

@CaliMex @gardenstategal Haha that's interesting since most private schools in Hawaii and California pride themselves on having a good swim program.

gardenstategal · June 29

@eekeek , I would pick Hawaii any day! My son's school has a beautiful pool (and a USASwimming elite team that uses it and that many of the top swimmers join in addition to the school team.) Really, as nice a swimming environment as one could wish for. Of course, it's indoor. Swimming outdoors in the sunshine would beat that for me! And for some reason, swimming is a winter sport.

I really would think through your motivation for leaving a top school in a wonderful place. You can do that for college.

ImWaisian · July 1

If you would like any baseline guidelines as to how competitive NEPSSA is, I think a good goal for times is to either hit AAA or AAAA time standards. Also, keep in mind that in HS swimming, there are only 100 FL, 100 BK, 100 BR, 200 IM and the 100, 200, 500 FR as individual events. Lastly, if you haven't swam in a while, I feel like swimming would probably be considered more of a hobby than a hook. If you feel you need more answers, please PM me!

@CaliMex Andover actually has the best swimming program in all of the East Coast boarding/private schools!

Edit: Please keep in mind that I'm speaking from the perspective of a Exeter BV swimmer. If your opinion differs, please feel free to disagree with me.

CC4life · July 2

@ImWasian I'm gonna push back on Andover having the best swimming program on the east coast, I would say that title most likely goes to Peddie. Swimming is literally like a Religion at Peddie and they have practices year-round in addition to twice weekly morning practices. While its' true Andover did beat them this year, this was only the second time this has occurred in history. Additionally, Peddie's swim program is known well outside the boarding school world because they routinely send several kids Olympic Trials and World Junior Championships. But again, that's just my opinion.

https://phillipian.net/2019/01/18/andover-boys-swimming-defeats-peddie-second-year-history-one-year-since-first-victory/

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