Babson?

Euroazn · December 2009

I'm just wondering how many classes you're allowed to take at Babson...

specifically Finance (not entrepreneurship) classes.
I thought it would be pretty cool to maybe get a minor (or even a double major!?!! seems highly unlikely though) in finance... anyone know if that's possible.

This may affect my decision if I apply or not ^.^

colorado_mom · December 2009

That's a good question. We've mostly heard Olin talk about students taken classes at Wellsley (and another college, I think Bryn Mawr) and sharing facilities with Babson.

fambam · December 2009

I think that they are a fair number of students taking classes at Babson whether are business related or arts and humanities electives. There is also a business masters that can be gotten along with the bachelors from Olin as I remember.

Euroazn · December 2009

Right - but those business courses (and masters) are entrepreneurship oriented. While I would be happy to take those classes, I was wondering if i could take babson finance classes as well.

winglessangel31 · December 2009

We are allowed to register for any course available at Wellesley, Babson, and Brandeis, with no special regard to courses that we have prerequisites for, as long as the professor conducting the course is agreeable. Also, the cap is at one course per college per semester.

Euroazn · December 2009

"Also, the cap is at one course per college per semester."

Hmmm.... and the *required* entrepreneurship courses.... do you take those at Babson or Olin?

winglessangel31 · December 2009

There is only one 'required' entrepreneurship course and that would be "Foundations of Business and Entrepreneurship" conducted at Olin, by Olin.
There is also only one 'required' arts/humanities/social sciences course and that would be one of a few foundational courses taken first semester freshman year at Olin, by Olin.
On top of these two 'required' courses, there are no further 'required' courses. There are, however, 'required' 'credits' from the Arts, Humanities, Social Sciences, and Entrepreneurship (AHSE) collective 'department'. Students can choose to complete these requirements by taking classes at Olin or at other schools. There is only one other existing entrepreneurship course in Olin's course catalog and that would be "New Technology Ventures" but I believe that is a jointly conducted course between Olin and Babson, on Olin's facilities.

Euroazn · January 2010

I see... thanks!
How rigorous is the base courseload... do you think there would be _time_ for a finance mionor on the side... hmmm

winglessangel31 · January 2010

Any response I give would be misinformation on your part.

We are a good school, so rigor should not need questioning. For the other things, well, to each his own.

nrg91720 · January 2010

I'm sure you could do a finance "minor" but we do not award minors so it wouldn't be a minor. You could take a bunch of finance classes though and on interviews say that you have taken many finance courses in addition to your engineering degree. If you don't mind me asking though, for what reasons do you want to "minor" in finance? You had said it might affect your decision over whether or not to apply.

Euroazn · January 2010

Well the fact is, I love finance and investing.

And I take it seriously. So that means I'm not like the other people at high school, who when the "know about investing" they think that day trading is a form of investing and form their opinions from CNBC and Motley Fool. Instead, I've read the classics (so basically philip fisher and ben graham), the newer stuff (bernstein) and recently mathematical finance. So the fact is, a college without finance is a no-no.

But at the same time, I've been in a magnet math-sci school, been good at math (Calc BC Freshman Year) and loved physics as well (Jets, Physics Bowl, Olympiad). Also, I'm a computer programming geek xD.

So, taking that arrogant, self-absorbed, haughty tone astride, you see my dilema...

. So if taking finance courses is possible, Olin is like my top pick: cool crowd, cool subjects, nice location, and I will not lie, the monetary help is a plus xD.

By the way,when you say "we" do you mean olin? What i was basically asking is if i could get a babson minor...

[Sorry for bad grammar, spelling, and haughty/arrogant tone at the beggining. lol]

nrg91720 · January 2010

Well, Babson isn't really known for Finance. And like I said, you'd only be able to take 7 classes in all at Babson, which I guess can be a lot. If you go to Olin, you do not go to Babson, so you cannot get any form of degree from them. So why do you think you want to major in engineering as opposed to finance? What makes you want to major in engineering? Also, because you have interests in both, perhaps you'd be better off getting degrees in both and thus going to a school where you can be both a part of the Engineering school and the Business school. I am also very interested in business in addition to engineering. One program I had looked at and I would recommend perhaps should be one of your top choices is UPENN's M&T program in which you get a degree from both Wharton and the Engineering school. In addition, as you may know, Wharton is essentially the top business school in the country for finance. MIT also lets you be a part of both the engineering and business schools as well as a load of good state schools that allow that. Another question: What do you see yourself doing after you graduate? What do you want to do? If Wall Street is something your thinking, just know that they generally recruit from specific, mostly IVY schools, so you'd have to get an MBA first. But, we do have contacts with some investment firms like Fidelity. On a final note, Olin and Babson's business strengths are in Entrepreneurship, not finance. But, on a final final note, I'd like to add that I hope not to discourage you from coming to Olin. You could definitely take a variety of finance classes at Babson and I would love to have a fellow Oliner here who is interested in finance. Currently, I am interested in Entrepreneurship, but not too long ago, it was my plan to head to Wall Street.

Euroazn · January 2010

Well, I guess I like everything

Haha...

What year are you? I'm still thinking _early_ ~ I'm a high school junior, lmao!

nrg91720 · January 2010

I'm a Freshman at Olin.

chanoob · January 2010

Hey guys i have a question. I want to go to Babson and also go to Olin for engineering. Is there anyway i can double major in entrep at babson and some sort of engineering at olin. I know it will take a while but im just wondering. Or is there just a certain number of courses i can take at Olin cuz i go to Babson.

nrg91720 · January 2010

So, you go to Babson? Regardless of which school you go to, Olin or Babson, you can only get the one degree from your home institution and can only take 1 course per semester at the other school (not including the first semester if u go to Olin).

Euroazn · January 2010

Well, i do know you can get a 5-year master's (admittedly in entreupreneurship... eh butchered) from Babson if you go to Olin... are you sure you can only get accredited from your home institution?

Euroazn · January 2010

And another thing... I realize that Olin has a very high GPA average.

It's selective, due to the small number of slots. I understand that.
What I'm wondering is, if I have a low GPA (the _highest_ [i.e i'm not getting it :'/] unweighted GPA I can get at the end of this year is 3.75, weighted like 4.5) but good EC's, and test scores, do I actually have a shot of getting in? Or are these babson questions completely theoretical anyway? :<<<

nrg91720 · January 2010

Yeah, the only other program if u go to Olin is with an extra year u get a Master's in Technological Entrepreneurship awarded from Babson. As to whether u have a shot, I'd say go for it. Show your interest in the school.

ohnocollegeapps · January 2010

I can't remember exactly what my high school GPA was, but it was lower than that, and I got in. Something around 3.5 unweighted and 5.3 weighted (out of 6.0). I wouldn't worry too much about your GPA. If you're concerned about getting in, I'll echo the showing interest in the school bit. Olin likes that.

Olin, Wellesley and Babson are in general trying to collaborate more, but you can't get a minor or major from a school you're not actually enrolled at, and I don't think that'll change soon. If finance falls under arts/humanities/social sciences, you could do an "AHS concentration/capstone" in finance, but it's not a minor, and I'm not sure if/how it shows up on your degree.

chanoob, I know Wellesley students can get some sort of engineering certificate from Olin, but I don't know the details of that or if it's available to Babson students.

nrg91720 · January 2010

Oh, I didn't think of that. A Concentration/Capstone in Finance would probably be possible and something that would show up on your resume and transcripts. I don't think that's ever been done before. Euroazn, a Capstone is essentially like your final senior project at Olin, so for u it potentially could be finance related. You may want to talk to an administrator at Olin about that since the only Capstone's we've ever had and the only options mentioned are a humanities capstone, or an entrepreneurship capstone, which do not include a business subject like Finance. Ohnocollegeapps, did u end up attending Olin?

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