when did each of the 8 need-blind colleges become need-blind?

<p>I’m very interested to know, especially since some 1990s’ graduates from these 8 international need-blind colleges - Harvard Yale Princeton MIT Amherst Middlebury Williams Dartmouth - from my country went there on government scholarships that require them to serve 6-year bonds working for the government upon graduation. I’d have thought that they wouldn’t accept the government scholarships if they had FA. I suspect that these colleges weren’t need-blind just a decade ago.</p>

<p>Could you guys provide the years during which these 8 need-blind colleges became need-blind to internationals? I know 2.</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
MIT
Dartmouth - 2008
Williams
Middlebury
Amherst - 2008</p>

<p>Good question…I don’t know the years for each but HYP must have been become need-bline after 1997. (That’s when ‘A is for Admission’ was published…in the book, the author wrote that applying for financial aid will hurt your chances at all ivy league schools)</p>

<p>EDIT: I thought Princeton was first, but it seems like Harvard was actually first?</p>

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Not exactly sure when it became need-blind but sometimes between 1997 and 1999</p>

<p>Not sure if Yale was before or after Princeton…</p>

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<p>That would mean in 2000?</p>

<p>Harvard - between 1997 and 1999
Yale - 2001
Princeton - 2000
MIT
Dartmouth - 2008
Williams - 2002 (?)
Middlebury
Amherst - 2008</p>

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<p>All I found about MIT was some stuff from 2005 that “MIT is need-blind to int’l students”. So it became need-blind sometime before 2005?</p>

<p>Same with Middlebury. I found a CC post from Dec 2004.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/middlebury-college/17646-middlebury-need-blind-international-students.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/middlebury-college/17646-middlebury-need-blind-international-students.html&lt;/a&gt;
So, Middlebury - sometime before Dec 2004?</p>

<p>And I found some rather confusing information

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Sometimes, even Duke was mentioned as need-blind. Anyone knows why?</p>

<p>Yes, I had way too much free time…</p>

<p>As far as I know, MIT went need-blind for ALL of its student admissions in 1969, so its coming up on 50 years now. MIT admits all of its students need-blind and awards all of its financial aid merit-blind.</p>

<p>Mikalye, following up on what you said, I did a little googling and found this:</p>

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[Diversity</a> At MIT: 1981 to present - The Tech](<a href=“http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N3/timeline.3f.html]Diversity”>http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N3/timeline.3f.html)</p>

<p>BUT, as stated in one of the articles quoted by boho_girl (great job!) in post #3, as of 1999,</p>

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<p>Surely MIT is a “top university”! </p>

<p>Anyway, I think many sources tend to neglect international students when talking about a school’s need-blind admissions policy. Maybe in 1957, MIT went need-blind just for domestic applicants, and international students were much later? That practice of excluding international applicants for convenience’s sake may also be the reason why, as boho_girl asked, Duke is sometimes mentioned as “need-blind” when it’s actually so for domestic applicants only.</p>

<p>Yes, I am not sure, but as I recall reading it, it was need-blind for domestic students in 1957 and need-blind for all students as of 1969.</p>

<p>At any event some 40-50 years before the other “top universities”. Boho girl quotes that well-known source The Yale Herald, which is simply and totally wrong on this, which simply reinforces my prejudices about Yale.</p>

<p>^^ I think you’re right. Yale Herald could have mistakenly written “top uni” instead of “ivy-league uni” (as Rister said, “A for Admissions” said none of the Ivies are need-blind to internationals)</p>

<p>Many sources just have conflicting information, and I can not find anywhere that it explicitly states when MIT or Harvard have gone need-blind to foreign citizens.</p>

<p>Another source by (infamous) Yale says this:</p>

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<p>And if you wish, another source by Harvard

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<p>And finally, in MIT’s words

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<p>I’m just confused as to why all the other schools highlight “the FIRST to [for eg. exclude loans from finaid package]” or explicitly state “need-blind to FOREIGN CITIZENS”, but not MIT.
These information would make it look like MIT was indeed the first to admit foreign students regardless of their need. </p>

<p>Or are those “first…” articles simply not available online, or was there another school in the game back then?</p>

<p>boho girl you’re really dedicated! or you have too much free time as you said? heheh but its amazing how you could dig out all the relevant articles.</p>

<p>I personally would look for an unequivocal statement by MIT. the part that bothers me is this:</p>

<p>MIT’s commitment to a need-blind admissions policy began in 1969, **which includes a commitment that all students admitted to MIT will have the financial support they need. **</p>

<p>the bolded portion still does not mean a need-blind policy for all applicants, just that all admitted students will have guaranteed financial support.</p>

<p>the sentence that follows is more encouraging though:</p>

<p>This makes it possible for the Institute to admit students based completely on merit without consideration of their ability to afford an MIT education.</p>

<p>I just wish they’d say “all students”. :P</p>

<p>Well, I’m on my summer breaks for 2 weeks already, so yeah… I’ve got plenty of time. I used this as a procrastination tool from cleaning my closet, though. :stuck_out_tongue:
Sometimes little useless facts can really intrigue me, so I decided to socialize with Google for a while. </p>

<p>But unfortunately, I didn’t have luck with finding a source which explicitly states when MIT went need-blind to internationals. If you really want to know, you might want to go straight to the source, and just ask one of MIT admissions officers, or make a thread in MIT subforum. </p>

<p>(Yet, Middlebury’s year does not seem to intrigue people as much)</p>

<p>Someone said that Stanford is need-blind to Canadians(but tries to hide it). Is that true??</p>

<p>If Stanford is need-blind for Canadians, why would they hide it? And if they did hide it, how would anyone here know?</p>

<p>Haha ever the skeptic, huh, Barium? :p</p>