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when did each of the 8 need-blind colleges become need-blind?
screwitlah
Registered User Posts: 1,980 Senior Member
I'm very interested to know, especially since some 1990s' graduates from these 8 international need-blind colleges - Harvard Yale Princeton MIT Amherst Middlebury Williams Dartmouth - from my country went there on government scholarships that require them to serve 6-year bonds working for the government upon graduation. I'd have thought that they wouldn't accept the government scholarships if they had FA. I suspect that these colleges weren't need-blind just a decade ago.
Could you guys provide the years during which these 8 need-blind colleges became need-blind to internationals? I know 2.
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
MIT
Dartmouth - 2008
Williams
Middlebury
Amherst - 2008
Could you guys provide the years during which these 8 need-blind colleges became need-blind to internationals? I know 2.
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
MIT
Dartmouth - 2008
Williams
Middlebury
Amherst - 2008
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Replies to: when did each of the 8 need-blind colleges become need-blind?
Not exactly sure when it became need-blind but sometimes between 1997 and 1999
Not sure if Yale was before or after Princeton...
That would mean in 2000?
Yale - 2001
Princeton - 2000
MIT
Dartmouth - 2008
Williams - 2002 (?)
Middlebury
Amherst - 2008
All I found about MIT was some stuff from 2005 that "MIT is need-blind to int'l students". So it became need-blind sometime before 2005?
Same with Middlebury. I found a CC post from Dec 2004.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/middlebury-college/17646-middlebury-need-blind-international-students.html
So, Middlebury - sometime before Dec 2004?
And I found some rather confusing information :confused:
Sometimes, even Duke was mentioned as need-blind. Anyone knows why?
Yes, I had way too much free time...
Diversity At MIT: 1981 to present - The Tech
BUT, as stated in one of the articles quoted by boho_girl (great job!) in post #3, as of 1999,
Surely MIT is a "top university"!
Anyway, I think many sources tend to neglect international students when talking about a school's need-blind admissions policy. Maybe in 1957, MIT went need-blind just for domestic applicants, and international students were much later? That practice of excluding international applicants for convenience's sake may also be the reason why, as boho_girl asked, Duke is sometimes mentioned as "need-blind" when it's actually so for domestic applicants only.
At any event some 40-50 years before the other "top universities". Boho girl quotes that well-known source The Yale Herald, which is simply and totally wrong on this, which simply reinforces my prejudices about Yale.
Many sources just have conflicting information, and I can not find anywhere that it explicitly states when MIT or Harvard have gone need-blind to foreign citizens.
Another source by (infamous) Yale says this:
And if you wish, another source by Harvard
And finally, in MIT's words
I'm just confused as to why all the other schools highlight "the FIRST to [for eg. exclude loans from finaid package]" or explicitly state "need-blind to FOREIGN CITIZENS", but not MIT.
These information would make it look like MIT was indeed the first to admit foreign students regardless of their need.
Or are those "first..." articles simply not available online, or was there another school in the game back then?
I personally would look for an unequivocal statement by MIT. the part that bothers me is this:
MIT’s commitment to a need-blind admissions policy began in 1969, which includes a commitment that all students admitted to MIT will have the financial support they need.
the bolded portion still does not mean a need-blind policy for all applicants, just that all admitted students will have guaranteed financial support.
the sentence that follows is more encouraging though:
This makes it possible for the Institute to admit students based completely on merit without consideration of their ability to afford an MIT education.
I just wish they'd say "all students". :P
Sometimes little useless facts can really intrigue me, so I decided to socialize with Google for a while.
But unfortunately, I didn't have luck with finding a source which explicitly states when MIT went need-blind to internationals. If you really want to know, you might want to go straight to the source, and just ask one of MIT admissions officers, or make a thread in MIT subforum.
(Yet, Middlebury's year does not seem to intrigue people as much)