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<p>Obama has his big lead back on Clinton, 49% to 39% nationally, though both are still trailing McCain. </p>
<p>But what i found really strange was that 1/4 people who oppose him falsely think he’s a Muslim when he’s really a Christian, obviously.</p>
<p>Oh, but if he is a Christian, he is the wrong “kind” of Christian.</p>
<p>He’s not a follower of Pastor Hagee.</p>
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<p>Wow where were these people for the last 2 weeks? Do they believe that this was a publicity stunt that went awry…I am sure these people also believe that we never walked on the moon either</p>
<p>Bulletandpima - they don’t think much, period. If you go to the “Free Republic” website forums you’ll be treated to these creepy souls who freely alternate between obsessing about Obama’s former pastor and referring to him as a Muslim. It doesn’t seem to bother them at all; just more bile they can spew.</p>
<p>Any of us who ever thought that racism and ignorance were dead in America can educate themself by visiting any right wing oriented website. Creepy, scary, disgusting.</p>
<p>“And of us who ever thought that racism and ignorance were dead in America can educate themself by visiting any right wing oriented website. Creepy, scary, disgusting.”</p>
<p>Of course the left wing web sites are filled with virtuous, deep-thinking people like the ones who hope that Tony Snow and Nancy Reagan die slow, agonizing deaths.</p>
<p>Then the frightening part is that Rush and Randi Rhodes have the mainstream of the far ends of the political parties.</p>
<p>What’s more frightening is for these sites to exist, there must be a demand :eek:</p>
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<p>It’s impossible to have extreme opinions about anything and still be intelligent.</p>
<p>I have gotten two chain emails in the last month regarding Obama’s ‘alleged’ ties to radical Islam. Pretty ridiculous and nasty stuff. But what is even more idiotic is the emails include a link to snopes.com with the statement that even snopes confirms the email to be accurate. EXCEPT, if you click on the link and do a search at snopes, you find snopes disavows the email as completely FALSE. lol…I guess it is assumed no one will bother to check it out?</p>
<p>I don’t know what this says about me that I know people who will forward this kind of crap. I guess I should be embarrassed.</p>
<p>I knew someone who thought this (before the Rev. Wright business) but I set him straight. I guess it has to do with the name “Barack Hussein Obama”.</p>
<p>No, he’s not a Muslim. He just attends a church where the (now former) pastor believes and preaches that white people created AIDS to intentionally infect and kill off black people.</p>
<p>I prefer intelligent Muslims to stupid Christians (referring to Wright, not Obama)</p>
<p>Well maybe Obama is a Muslim mole who attends a subversive Christian church but actually prays to Allah…Once he becomes President maybe he will set off a suicide bomb during his State of the Union…</p>
<p>Parent2noles, Rev. Wright grew up in a country where the “Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male” was carried out. If you’re not familiar with it, here’s a description of it from Wikipedia:
Thats a documented historical fact. So while I don’t believe that the US government was responsible for AIDS I don’t think that pointing to Wright’s comments about that particular urban legend are the best way of illustrating your perception of Wright’s moral and intellectual inferiority to us right thinking Americans.</p>
<p>What Wright said was that “The Government” created Aids to infect the black community. As far fetched as it sounds to most white people, you might be surprised by the number of blacks who have heard this conspiracy theory, and even more surprised by how many suspect that it may be true. The reason for this is a very real and verifiable history (such as the “medical study” documented by Kluge) of past programs and policies, carried out by the US Government, that did demonstrate a shocking disregard for the lives of some groups of minority citizens. Native Americans, Blacks, and Japanese Americans all have stories of inhumane government programs and policies that resulted in great suffering and loss. </p>
<p>I don’t believe that the government created Aids, or set out to infect the black community with it, but I can see how a black man of Pastor Wright’s age and experience might believe it. It’s not “racist”. It’s paranoia. But what’s that old saying?—“Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean someone’s not out to get you.”:rolleyes:</p>
<p>No disputing the questionable moral decisions (viewed in retrospect) that were involved with the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, which I suggest was more the norm for certain groups than not in the 1930s.</p>
<p>There are undoubtedly other medical studies that occurred on other races that are more reprehensible…such as the experiments conducted by Nazi Germany ([Nazi</a> human experimentation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Nazi human experimentation - Wikipedia)%5DNazi”>Nazi human experimentation - Wikipedia)), Japanese Military Unit 731 ([Japanese</a> war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia”>Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia)) and the yet to be released experiments carried out by Soviet Russia, Communist China, North Korea and others, sometimes on American service members.</p>
<p>The point is…so what? The pastor is an uninformed conspiracy theorist who spouted this nonsense for years. Harvard-educated Obama grew up with this guy as his pastor. Obama now needs to disown him.</p>
<p>If Obama wants to be President he needs to represent ALL the people, not just African Americans. In fact, Obama should probably publicly correct the record on this nonsense by saying where AIDS is suspected of originating.</p>
<p>Parent2noles, I submit to you that if Obama were to condemn Jeremiah Wright as the most worthless sort of individual, you would not support his bid for the presidency. Come on, admit it. Ultimately, there’s not a thing that Barack Obama could say or do that would appease you, except to drop out of the race (or drink poisoned koolAid, or something:rolleyes:.)</p>
<p>I can vote for Obama under a number of situations. I was initially impressed with him as bridging the American racial divide and being the right tonic at the right time to finally cure racism in the US.</p>
<p>So you’re saying that, if Obama were to condemn Wright as a worthless human being with whom he will no longer have anything to do, then you might vote for him?</p>
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<p>So, you’re saying that the Tuskegee experiment was a mere “questionable moral decision”, but Jeremiah Wright’s belief that the US Government is still willing and able to do other things of similar nature—now that’s racism of such a virulent nature, that it even renders members of his church unfit to run for President…</p>
<p>I see…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>And while the initiation of the study in the 1930’s might not stand out from other’s behavior in that era, the decision to continue to deliberately withhold treatment from the men into the 1970’s is what strikes me about that episode. Yeah, Rev. Wright is a bit of a wacko, but I find the sanctimonious reaction of people who are not African Americans to his preaching to be extremely hypocritical. I doubt that there’s a 47 year old white person in America who hasn’t sat by silently - more than once - while a racist joke or comment was being made. Doesn’t stop them from harrumpphing over Obama’s mere membership in that church.</p>