<p>Is Stanford a no go with a 1300, even if I have basically the best app that Stanford could possibly see in a few years?</p>
<p>eg… 10 AP… 4.0… weighted 4.9. top clubs president of class… make a ton of cash programming (stanford is very technicaly).</p>
<p>just wondering. thanks. highest weighted gpa the school has ever had, even if the AP program has been going on for a while…</p>
<p>“I have basically the best app that Stanford could possibly see in a few years?”</p>
<p>Hmmm… That’s quite an ambitious statement… And I would not count on that to be true, if I were you, knowing the kind of people that apply to Stanford… 10 AP, 4.0, weighted 4.9. top clubs president of class? - that’s the standard, more or less…</p>
<p>1300 is really low. But you still have some time to work on that.</p>
<p>“But you still have some time to work on that.”</p>
<p>I guess you don’t. I thought you were a junior…</p>
<p>The 1300 won’t keep you out, but the lack of humility will.</p>
<p>apply to harvard instead
;p j/k, but seriously, your post was extremely arrogant. Plenty of people have 10 AP’s on their transcript (I myself have 11), 4.0 unweighted, etc. Eat a LARGE portion of humble pie, and then hope for the best.</p>
<p>Yeah, I have 11 APs and a 4.0…it’s not that big of a deal and it’s definitely not uncommon…I think the 1300 will hurt your chances, but won’t be the only factor in deciding whether to admit you or not</p>
<p>Don’t kid yourself, there are plenty of people that have and will apply to Stanford that are better than you. The 1300 will definitely hurt, especially if you have 10APs, a 4.9 and are the class president…people like that are “supposed” to get better than a 1300.</p>
<p>maybe that shows that your school was pretty generous with your grades. if you’re in 10 aps and have such a high gpa, the sats should have been a walk in the park for you. plain and simple.</p>
<p>Amnesia, consider the high-school accomplishments of some of the other applicants that Stanford has seen.</p>
<p>Drue Katoaka</p>
<p>"A native of Tokyo who came to the United States with her parents when she was 5 years old, Kataoka, also an accomplished flutist, is an acknowledged master of the 2,000-year-old art form of Sumi-e, which relies heavily on the viewer’s imagination to fill in spaces left by the artist’s disciplined brush strokes. …After years of study that began at the age of 9, she received her Han, or red stamp of mastery that appears on all her pieces, about the time she was entering Stanford after graduation as class valedictorian from Sacred Heart High School in Atherton. "</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/04/16/MN45585.DTL[/url]”>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/04/16/MN45585.DTL</a></p>
<p>Dana Kirk:</p>
<p>“[In high school, Kirk was the] Winner of the 100 and 200 yard fly at the Washington 4A state meet as a senior on her way to Swimmer of the Meet honors and 317 individual points, the most in state history Set a new state record in the 100 yard fly as a senior and swam the second-fastest 200 yard free in state history Associated Student Body President, Female Athlete of the Year, Student of the Year and Homecoming Princess as a senior ”</p>
<p><a href=“http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/kirk_dana00.html[/url]”>http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/kirk_dana00.html</a></p>
<p>Desiree Stahley</p>
<p>"A 2003 graduate of Lake Highland High School Earned 25 prep All-American honors Won the state title in the 200 yard IM as a senior Anchored the state and national high school championship 200 yard medley relay team as a sophomore Team also won the District title and was the state runner-up in her senior season Two-time team MVP Set six SCY school records (100 free, 200 free, 500 free, 200 IM, 200 free relay, 200 medley relay) School valedictorian and Coca-Cola scholar Was the President of the American Cancer Society for Teens and a national finalist for AAU Athlete of the Year as a senior Three-time USA Swimming Scholastic All-American Given a SAMMY Award in 2003 as one of the Top 25 high school scholar-athletes in the United States Also was on the school’s weightlifting team for two seasons Class valedictorian and National Honor Society member "</p>
<p><a href=“http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/stahley_desiree00.html[/url]”>http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/stahley_desiree00.html</a></p>
<p>Carly Geehr</p>
<p>"A 2002 graduate of Newport Harbor High School An All-American and two-time CIF champion Set CIF Division III records in the 200 yard IM and 500 yard free Unbeaten in dual meets during her high school career Named the CIF Division III MVP as a freshman in 1998-99 in her only prep season at Mayfield Senior School A national merit scholar Class valedictorian "</p>
<p><a href=“http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/geehr_carly00.html[/url]”>http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/geehr_carly00.html</a></p>
<p>Erin Glenn</p>
<p>“A 2001 graduate of Haddonfield Memorial High School An All-Conference, All-State and All-South Jersey swimmer as a senior A four-year finalist at the New Jersey State Championships Named her team’s Most Valuable Swimmer as a senior in 2001 Set a school record in the 500 yard free and also as a member of several relay teams Swimming team won high school state title twice (2000, '01) in her final two seasons Valedictorian, a member of the National Honors Society and a four-year Academic-All-American Coached by Bob Querubin”</p>
<p><a href=“http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/glenn_erin00.html[/url]”>http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/w-swim/mtt/glenn_erin00.html</a></p>
<p>There are plenty more where that came from, but I think I made my point. Amnesia, do you really think your application is going to be better than the apps of the people I just named?</p>
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<p>If your not a URM, first gen, or recruited then the lowest sat to get in is 1350.</p>
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<p>You’ve got to be kidding me! There is not a floor or a ceiling for SATs for Stanford. To suggest so would be ridiculous; some applicants may not do so well on the SAT I, but may overall be a well-rounded student.</p>
<p>And ever consider the purpose of the SAT Is? Admission committee use SATs as a way of predicting your competency in college, not how smart you are; it is an attempt to test what you’re supposed to know in 3 hours.</p>
<p>Students can demonstrate their ability to complete college work by attending colleges and universities while in high school. What if you went to Cornell’s summer program, took college courses, and earned A’s, but had a 1270 SAT score? What if you went to UCLA and took college courses and earned A’s by scored only a 1270? What if you attend a CSU, while in high school, yet you score a 1270 SAT? I highly doubt Stanford would reject a student who has demonstrate their ability to perform at a college in favor of a student who has not gone to a college, but scored a 1400.</p>
<p>I’ve known kids who have gotten in with 1270/1290/1320 with unweighted GPAs from 3.5 to 3.7 who weren’t URMs or athletes or first-generation college students or had saved a third-world nation. They were kids with passions and convictions and dedication, and used the essay as a vehicle to express that and had the recs to back it up. I hate this misguided perception so many of you seem to have regarding the SAT. It’s like for you, it boggles your mind that a kid with a sub-1300 without the ‘exceptions’ you’ve deemed ‘excusable’ can get into Stanford because it doesn’t fit the formula you’ve invented in your mind. How many times do I have to say it? Stanford is accepting PEOPLE, not numbers. I hope this trend of arrogancy and superiority doesn’t continue on into April. No one on this board has the authority to tell someone they have no chance in hell or that they have a reasonable shot; I don’t care how many books you’ve read or how many adcoms you’ve spoken with. Besides, I thought this forum was for people talking about Stanford and how awesome it is and to provide a support network as we trudge on through the grueling wait, not a specialized “What Are My Chances?” thread. You guys need to get over this obsession with the SAT. It’s important, it’s relevant, yes, but like eiffelguy87 said, there is no floor or ceiling. It is not the be-all or end-all. It doesn’t get your foot any more in or out of the door than anybody else: correlation does not mean causation.</p>
<p>Here, here.</p>
<p>“correlation does not mean causation”</p>
<p>yes, thank goodness for statistics.</p>
<p>i dont beleive this…a 1300 is EXCELLENT. people would take a 1300 anyday. geez. anyways, with all these geniuses in this board, i guess a 1300 is considered “low”.</p>
<p>Our friend amnesia seems to have forgotten that the bubble he lives in does not encompass the world’s population of talented people. I have you crushed–3 varsity sports, 5.0 W and 4.0 UW, 16 APs, and you missed more points on the SAT 1 than I did on every SAT test (I and II) that I ever took. And I’m still nobody. ‘The best Stanford could possibly see.’</p>
<p>yes, a reality check is necessary, but dwintz, that was a bit harsh: “you missed more points on the SAT 1 than I did on every SAT test (I and II) that I ever took. And I’m still nobody.”</p>
<p>As for you, Amnesia, your accomplishments are outstanding… just don’t get too depressed by these replies. However, I do have to agree that your chances of getting in are really slim, but you never know how the admissions office would look at.</p>
<p>Don’t forget that schools do not lump all applicants together. If you go a high school that is less than steller and you well there, that works to your advantage.</p>
<p>If you, amnesia, go to a very competitive school, then they would give less weight to you then to another student who has done well at a poor performing school.</p>
<p>eiffelguy87 your post sounds like me - 1240, NASA SHARP instead of Cornell summer prog, and then CSU and CC courses during high school</p>
<p>Yes there are always exceptions, but not many.</p>
<p>I scored a 1240 and my class average is 960 with only one person getting over 1400 out of 650 people.
I didnt get in to Stanford, i accept it and know that my scores and GPA wasnt top notch.</p>
<p>You guys/gals are correct there is not set in stone score for people. </p>
<p>laurak - The people that you know where any of them rich, had legacy, or go to a high school that always sends students to Stanford. But i dont care how well rounded, passionate, whatever there is a certain creteria that , must be reached by different applicants. For the non URm, no legacy, nor first gen, not super rich/ powerful, no connections, who does not have a super huge EC or famous thing, there is a certain score and stats that you must obtain. I have spoken with stanford admissions officers and they have even told me that i need to be in the 1300’s
to be allowed in. All the top schools must and do have regulations and limits for applicants. The schools have to have a place or score to cut the line for certain types of people that dont mmet certain special criteria. The school is a business and to keep their rankings and everything top notch they must have these limits. </p>
<p>Look at the rsi guy statitoquly? who didnt get in to his ea/ed school he had an sat in the 1300’s but had rsi ( the best summer program period) and you know the huy was passionate and showed it in the essays. This is a great example.</p>