16 year old here, needs help :D

ghorboonetdood · June 4, 2008, 1:13pm

Hey,

So I’m 16, I took the CHSPE ([California</a> High School Proficiency Examination (CHSPE)](<a href=“http://www.chspe.net%5DCalifornia”>http://www.chspe.net)) and I decided to go to American River College. I have finished 3 semesters, about to be 4 since I’m taking classes over the summer as well.

So heres my transcript, hoping it would help idk…

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<li>Beginning of ARC Record - - - - -

<pre><code> Summer 2007
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Program : American River College

Plan : Undecided Major

MATH 330 Trigonometry 3.00 3.00 B 9.000

<pre><code> TERM GPA : 3.000 TERM TOTALS : 3.00 3.00 9.000

  CUM  GPA :     3.000      CUM  TOTALS :      3.00     3.00          9.000

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Progress TERM PCT : 0% CUM PCT : 0%

<pre><code> Good Standing

                               Fall 2007

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Program : American River College

Plan : Undecided Major

CISP 300 Alogorithm Dsgn/Prob Solv 3.00 0.00 W

ENGWR 300 College Composition 3.00 0.00 W

MATH 370 Pre-Calculus Mathematics 5.00 5.00 B 15.000

<pre><code> TERM GPA : 3.000 TERM TOTALS : 5.00 5.00 15.000

  CUM  GPA :     3.000      CUM  TOTALS :      8.00     8.00         24.000

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Progress TERM PCT : 55% CUM PCT : 43%

<pre><code> Good Standing

                              Spring 2008

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Program : American River College

Plan : Undecided Major

ARTH 300 Introduction to Art 3.00 3.00 A 12.000

CISC 310 Intro Computer Info Science 3.00 3.00 B 9.000

CISP 370 Beg Visual Basic 4.00 4.00 B 12.000

<pre><code> Course Topic(s): Visual Basic .NET 2005
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ENGWR 300 College Composition 3.00 3.00 A 12.000

<pre><code> TERM GPA : 3.462 TERM TOTALS : 13.00 13.00 45.000

  CUM  GPA :     3.286      CUM  TOTALS :     21.00    21.00         69.000

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Progress TERM PCT : 0% CUM PCT : 22%

<pre><code> Good Standing

             Honors

                              Summer 2008 (these classes start nxt week)

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Program : American River College

Plan : Undecided Major

PHIL 320 Logic & Crit Reasoning 3.00

POLS 301 Intro to Govt: U.S. 3.00

<pre><code> TERM GPA : 0.000 TERM TOTALS : 0.00 0.00 0.000

  CUM  GPA :     3.286      CUM  TOTALS :     21.00    21.00         69.000

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As you can see, my fall sem was not so great lol, but this semester, I took studying alot more serious and I actually started to like college alot more! I’m majoring in buisness admin now.

So heres my general plan. I want to transfer from ARC to a UC, preferably Berkely, and major in business admin. Then, maybe take a year or two off from school and start work. Afterwards, I want to go to a law school, most likely UCD’s school of law, and specalize in biz law.

But heres my question…

Will I even HAVE a chance to get into Berkley? I mean my gpa is 3.3 which is ridiculously low. If I get 3.5 and above for the rest of the 2 years, should I be safe?

thxxx

Posc · June 4, 2008, 2:12pm

You’re doing pretty well right now, I think if you can start turning your Bs into As for the rest of your stay at CC you’ll have a competitive shot at Cal.

Although I believe Berkeley’s business school is quite selective(more so than the rest of the school) so just bringing up your GPA might not be enough. You should consider finding ways to involve yourself on campus(clubs, volunteering, and whatnot) to make your “resume” more interesting.

Posc · June 4, 2008, 2:16pm

Considering how early on in your college career that fall semester was, I think you can play it off as being “unprepared for the workload” and that you’re more current semesters should reflect your aptitude for college success.

Malishka31 · June 4, 2008, 2:17pm

You are talking about transferring into HAAS not into just Berkeley.

You will need to have just about a 4.0 , work experience during college that is significant, volunteer works and ECs that show leadership skills, a solid resume that lists these things along with an exceptional essay.

there is NO SUCH THING AS SAFE for HAAS. You can have the 4.0 and have started your own company, and was president of student government, it doesnt mean they will accept you. Their admissions is quite selective.

completing · June 4, 2008, 2:20pm

Haas is really hard to get in… You should get straight A from now on.

Two of my friends(twins actually) applied to Berkeley Business Admin, but didn’t get in.
They had over 3.9 GPA, all pre-reqs, and good essays, and they are fluent speakers in English, German, Vietnamese, Spanish, and Sign Language.

Anyway, try to bring your grades up.

ghorboonetdood · June 4, 2008, 3:04pm

wooooooooooow

NO haas. my friend got in, but he did all prereqs had a 4.0 and talked to the dean himself (everything i won’t do lol)

WAY too hard, im not trying to commit suicide guys cmon lol.

I mean I thought you can go to Berkeley and still major in biz admin but not go to haas, I guess thats not the case, damn

So how CAN I major in biz admin in Berkeley

Guardiangel · June 4, 2008, 3:07pm

u can major in business admin at berkeley
if u got in haas ^ - ^

Malishka31 · June 4, 2008, 3:47pm

Why do you want to major in BizAdmin to begin with? Really not that useful for undergrad, you can accomplish the same things with other majors and go on to get your MBA instead of doing undergrad in business.

What are you job goals?

Guardiangel · June 4, 2008, 5:12pm

thats what they aaallll say…
if thats ur dream go for it.
psh who cares what others say

ghorboonetdood · June 4, 2008, 5:30pm

Job goals…

specials in corporate/biz law.

xleper17 · June 4, 2008, 5:42pm

if you want to go into law, don’t worry about being an econ major.

unless you’re going to head your own company and be your own in-house lawyer, being an econ major doesn’t help but it doesn’t hurt either. you’re working with the law, not the economy, lol. you can be whatever major and still excel in that field, if you’ve got the chops.

just something i’ve noticed in dad’s line of work.

Guardiangel · June 4, 2008, 5:55pm

basically haas is a 1 shot 1 kill opportunity.
so u better have backup schools.
apply to different UCs for econ if u want a good safety net.
if u don’t get into haas then no big deal u have other options in econ as well
^ - ^ no one can blame u for trying

xleper17 · June 4, 2008, 6:02pm

^^ wise words. i agree completely.

ghorboonetdood · June 4, 2008, 7:31pm

well whats the difference between a lawyer for microsoft and a lawyer for a firm that deals with personal injury and the sort?

I mean they both ended up specializing in two different areas right?

xleper17 · June 4, 2008, 7:46pm

an in-house lawyer for Microsoft isn’t a top notch lawyer, this is what i’ve seen and been told. Microsoft, HP, Samsung, Honda, Coca-cola, etc, all of these big companies have an in-house staff. But when they’re looking to merge and take care of legal matters with other companies, they hire other law firms to work together. They go to the big dog law firms, have one lead the case, while they hire other firms to support them in man-power.

The only difference between corporate and civil lawyers is what type of law firm they joined after law school. A lot of them become junior associates in big firms (corporate, civil, whatever), work their butts off and after a few years of experience they leave and join smaller firms. If they’re really good, they’ll join with other young lawyers and create their own law firm and forever have their names on the door. Otherwise, they will join a smaller firm as a junior associate and work their way up to senior partner.

Again, their BA’s didn’t really matter. All that matters is what grad school they got into, which is often a reflection of their GPA in their undergrad and their LSAT score.

It’s like being a doctor. They all go to the same med school, yet some doctors end up being oncologist, cardiologist, etc. Some become surgeons and some don’t. They specialize by learning more about what they want to specialize in AFTER they finish med school.

ghorboonetdood · June 4, 2008, 9:40pm

wow, ur my hero :D

So I thought its better if I major in biz b/c of my future plans, but I guess I specialize in that AFTER my BA.

So I won’t even do biz law even DURING law school?

Heres this link that I read, and I’m pretty sure this is what I want…

[UC</a> Davis School of Law - Business Law](<a href=“http://www.law.ucdavis.edu/academics/businessLaw.shtml]UC”>http://www.law.ucdavis.edu/academics/businessLaw.shtml)

xleper17 · June 4, 2008, 10:14pm

Well, you learn about all types of law in law school. Constitutional, business, civil suits, etc. Again, like medical school, you learn about the entire body and later on you can specialize.

If you want to work for the top notch firms that are hired by Microsoft, Coca-Cola and all those other blue chip companies, I suggest you stay away from UC Davis Law school. I’m sure those lawyers are excellent and can handle any of those big cases, but those top firms won’t let you in the door if you come from UC Davis law school.

Stay away from Pepperdine as well. I suggest you look at UCLA or above. The top is clearly Yale, but their average LSAT score is 179/180.

UCLA Law, UCB Law (excellent, from what i hear), Harvard, Yale, etc.

Work on your writing now. You need to be an excellent writer in order to be on the top of the pile. I know so many excellent litigators and brilliant minds that had to be “let go” because their writing was sub-par. It wasn’t sub-par in my opinion, but according to the firm, it was.

HeavyMetalG0d · June 4, 2008, 10:19pm

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<li>you will not get into haas with that gpa unless you take a few years off, work at a business, learn some essential leadership skills that you can write about, then come back when youre 18 or 19 and get straight As. </li>
<li>most people go to law school straight after undergrad</li>
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ghorboonetdood · June 5, 2008, 12:30am

ya I was actually looking into ucla’s law school earlier today, it really is prestigious :D

and Haas was never in the picture, so I’m not even worrying about that hehe.

And I don’t want to be a lawyer for HUGE corporations, honestly, just a lawyer for businesses not worth more than 50 million

xleper17 · June 5, 2008, 1:10am

haha. well then you can join a small but powerful firm (around 150 lawyers) but those lawyers are all worth every damn penny. they get paid six figures, easily, as a starting salary for a junior associate.

be prepared to be the best in the field of candidates.

those small firms get to pick and choose what cases they want to take it. if they’re good enough, they can turn away a large case (my dad turns away alcohol ones) and not be worried about making a large profit.

16 year old here, needs help :D

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