<p>phuriku - I know UChicago claim self-selectivity. However, it is a step down from HYPSM, and at most on par with Columbia, Dartmouth, Duke, Brown, Northwestern, etc. UChicago has a reputation for attracting a certain type of students, and that reputation isn’t likely to change in a short time frame due to an ambitious president. Besides, although UChicago’s admissions rate decreased due to its use of commonapp, it’s yield has decreased as well.</p>
<p>TheDesertFox - these are for real.</p>
<p>Sam Lee = CC’s resident statistic sleuth.</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>So much anti-Chicago sentiment on CC. 
That’s alright, I’m satisfied with being held in higher regard by university presidents.</p>
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+Venkat89
You fail to realize that Columbia, unlike every other ivy, does not take the common application so there is less likely someone being ‘fairweather ivy applicant’ Columbia could get a couple of thousand more apps if, and when, it does that. Also, for everyone who applies to Columbia because it’s in NY, there are loads of others who would never consider applying there for that very reason. It works both ways!</p>
<p>MichLawHopeful- Can you just calm down, please? You have absolutely no idea whether or not that’s even true. I’m sure SAT scores alone weren’t responsible for the ranking change. Besides, within the top 10 is exactly where UChicago belongs…</p>
<p>the collegeboard’s 25th percentile seems a little too low for Chicago. now all of the 3 ranges seem odd.</p>
<p>Are you sure that this isn’t just a typo? Chicago was tied with Columbia for the past three years, and it should’ve received a boost in selectivity this year anyway with a 3% increase in top 10%. It seems to me that if these were the statistics that US News used to calculate the ranking, then Chicago should’ve moved ahead of Columbia.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t UChicago’s own website provide the most accurate info about its student’s SAT range?</p>
<p>no, i am not sure. it’s possible that’s it’s just a printing error and the printed range isn’t what went into the system.</p>
<p>Remember that general percentile does not necessarily equal the percentile of CR + percentile of M. So for all we know, CollegeBoard’s stats may be the same as those of Chicago’s website. Personally, I think it’s probably a typo. Anyone want to e-mail someone at US News once the actual rankings come out? (That is, if the online edition has the same numbers as the printed edition.)</p>
<p>the general percentile is usually lower than the combined percentile of CR + M.</p>
<p>Really? How do you know? Mathematically, that doesn’t even make sense. They should “on average” be the same. So if one is slightly higher than the other, it’s not significant.</p>
<p>not significantly, about 10 -20 points at most. for nearly all schools, the general percentile (obtained from USNews) is usually 10-20 points lower than the combined percentile of CR + M (obtained from CollegeBoard.com).</p>
<p>So according to CollegeBoard:
M: 650 - 760
CR: 660 - 770
Total: 1310-1530</p>
<p>According to Chicago’s website:
Total: 1340-1510</p>
<p>Total point change: 10 points. What’s the problem?</p>
<p>if the 25th percentile were 1310 (collegeboard.com), that would mean 4% are in the 1300-1310 alone while only 14% are in 1311-1390. it’s highly unlikely. there should be more and more toward the higher end as this range is below their average. collegeboard’s 25th percentile seems too low. but then the data on chicago’s website aren’t consistent with each other, as you pointed out. it’s messy, very messy.</p>
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I said applicants, not admitted students. Lots of students at my high school were pressured by either parents or peers to go to top schools and tons of seniors apply to Penn, Cornell, Columbia, WashU, Northwestern, Emory, Michigan, and other top schools. Maybe I’m wrong based on who I know that applies to Brown. The students I know admitted there are all very bright. However, attracting more applicants doesn’t make a school more selective. West Point and Deep Springs might be more selective than Harvard, but attract fewer applicants. More applicants means a lower admit rate. It does not mean students are stronger nor does it mean that the school is more selective.</p>
<p>Collegeboard is outdated and not reliable. The OFFICIAL ranking list hasn’t even come out yet. For all we know the OP could be using a fake list.</p>
<p>can anyone post the top 50 for liberal arts colleges?</p>
<p>^ I did Kennebec and Penobscot white water rafting this year = )</p>