<p>so is Upenn still considered a lower ivy? and before you beat me up for the term lower ivy…I don’t like nor use the term…I am just responding to some of the posts. I mean where does a non HYP have to be on the list to be considered a real ivy and not Ivy lite as some from HYP call the others. just a question for those who say there are tiers 1, 2 and even 3 in the Ivies.</p>
<p>I think people will continue to call Penn a ‘lesser Ivy’. They have for the past ten years, and Penn has been in the top 4 in 4 of the last 8 years. Haha, ‘Ivy Lite’. I hadn’t heard that before.</p>
<p>I would say penn is an average ivy.</p>
<p>If Penn ever jumped HYoP over/under on how many CC’s heads would explode.</p>
<p>I second the request for the top 50 LAC. Please :-)</p>
<p>Also, “up and coming schools” would be very interesting if possible.</p>
<p>THANKS, I know it is a lot of typing…</p>
<p>Where the hell is the top 50 LAC list?</p>
<p>Page 1 -_-.</p>
<p>Top Liberal Arts</p>
<ol>
<li>Williams</li>
<li>Amherst</li>
<li>Swarthmore</li>
<li>Middleburry</li>
<li>Wellesley</li>
<li>Bowdoin</li>
<li>Pomona</li>
<li>Carleton</li>
<li>Davidson</li>
<li>Haverford</li>
<li>Claremont McKenna</li>
<li>Vassar</li>
<li>Wesleyan</li>
<li>Grinnel</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd</li>
<li>US Military Academy</li>
<li>Washington and Lee</li>
<li>Smith</li>
<li>Colgate</li>
<li>US Naval Academy</li>
</ol>
<p>I can verify this is the new rankings. </p>
<p>Top Eng,</p>
<p>1.MIT
2. Stanford
2. UCB
4.CT
5.GaTech
5.Illinois
7.CMU
7.UMich
9.Cornell
Purdue
Texas
12. Wisconsin
12.Princeton
14.JHU
14.NU
14. Va Tech</p>
<p>Barrons do you have the list for top 100 research universities?</p>
<p>Upenn will still be a lower ivy mentioned with Cornell. Don’t take this the wrong way. Cornell is a good school, very similar to Upenn.</p>
<p>How about the rest of the National U’s, top tier, after 75. I see 1-50 listed and 51-75. Can we get the rest of the top tier U’s?</p>
<p>what were the overall scores for the top ten?</p>
<p>Yes but I’m not typing it. If you want a specific ask</p>
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<p>US News may just add the 75th percentile scores for Math and Reading. This is inaccurate, but many do it. A lot of kids will score 800 math and 680 reading, and vice versa. I don’t believe 25% of kids at Harvard scored 1590 or above, either.</p>
<p>^^ Or wait till tonight…you’ll see the whole list (without details) on USNews website.</p>
<p>Barrons i just private messaged you thanks.</p>
<p>barrons,</p>
<p>I would really appreciate the overall scores for just the top 5 LACs.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>^ barrons probably already used the LAC section of his magazine for toilet paper. ;)</p>
<p>I have much higher standards for my TP.</p>
<p>williams 100
Amherst 96
Swat 94
Midd 92
Wellesley 92</p>
<p>What place was Hamilton in the liberal arts ranking?</p>