<p>^I seriously hate that gators commercial where it’s just a bunch of clips of stangers walking by each other and saying ‘Go gators!’</p>
<p>well hell, I have to give you bonus points for having that kind of positive outlook, hell, pretty soon ya’ll going to take over the world, Gator Nation to Gator Domination.</p>
<p>Go Gators Go Gators Go Gators Go Gators</p>
<p>Chomp, chomp mother ****er</p>
<p>oh you want to get really nerdy, UT math program #14, UF #58. WoW, there is a god.</p>
<p>dionte, i thought you went to temple?</p>
<p>Him, Mark Levin, and David Hasselhoff were roomates, lol.</p>
<p>Do CalTech or MIT even offer Bachelor’s of Arts degrees or just Bachelor’s of Science ones? If no BAs, then they are clearly specialty schools and should not be ranked.</p>
<p>That being said, I’m pleased Penn’s moving up! With such atrocious marketing and frankly lax admission standards that need tightening, I was afraid that we’d move down a space or two, but it appears I was mistaken.</p>
<p>Lots of ties…</p>
<p>Is anyone else surprised that Brown DROPPED? :/</p>
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<p>I have no idea why Brown is ranked so low. This is probably one of the bigger distortions of the USNews ranking IMO.</p>
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<p>Not only does Caltech not grant BAs, their “non hard science/math” majors are limited to:</p>
<p>Economics
English
History
History and Philosophy of Science
Philosophy
Political Science</p>
<p>AND it has an undergraduate enrollment of 920 (!). IMO it has no place in these rankings, but it really has no other place to go.</p>
<p>2009 2010</p>
<ol>
<li> Harvard 100 1. Harvard 100</li>
<li> Princeton 99 1. Princeton 100</li>
<li> Yale 98 3. Yale 98</li>
<li> MIT 94 4. Cal Tech 93</li>
<li> Stanford 94 4. MIT 93</li>
<li> Cal Tech 93 4. Stanford 93</li>
<li> UPenn 93 4. UPenn 93</li>
<li> Columbia 90 8. Columbia 91</li>
<li> Duke 90 8. UChicago 91</li>
<li> U Chicago 90 10. Duke 90</li>
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<p>So if you just look at the Overall Score the real movers were Princeton, Columbia and U Chicago all up 1. Stanford and MIT both down one. It’s not like UPenn and Cal Tech went up in the overall score - the scores are the same as last year, Stanford and MIT scores went down. Yes, Penn and Cal Tech have moved up in the rankings but only because other schools did worse. They did not move up because they were better this year - their overall score is the same as last year. However, at the end of the day, rankings are rankings and Cal Tech and UPenn are #4.</p>
<p>By the way, for comparison, here are the non-physical science/math majors offered at my former university (Northwestern):</p>
<p>African American studies
American studies
Anthropology
Art history
Art theory and practice
Asian and Middle East languages and civilization
Asian and Middle East studies
Classics (Latin and Greek)
Comparative literary studies
Drama
Economics
English
English major in writing
European studies
French
Gender studies
Geography
German
History
International studies
Italian
Jewish studies
Latina and Latino studies
Legal studies
Linguistics
Philosophy
Political science
Psychology
Religion
Science in human culture
Slavic languages and literature
Sociology
Spanish and Portuguese
Urban studies
Communication sciences and disorders
Communication studies
Dance
Performance studies
Radio/television/film
Theatre
Human development and psychological services
Learning and organizational change
Secondary teaching
Social policy
Arts in Music, Bachelor of
Baritone/Bass - voice and opera
Bassoon - wind and percussion instruments
Cello - stringed instruments
Clarinet - wind and percussion instruments
Classical guitar - stringed instruments
Double bass - stringed instruments
Euphonium - wind and percussion instruments
Flute - wind and percussion instruments
French horn - wind and percussion instruments
Harp - stringed instruments
Jazz studies
Mezzo - voice and opera
Music cognition
Music composition
Music education - general music, instrumental, choral
Musicology
Music technology
Music theory
Oboe - wind and percussion instruments
Percussion - wind and percussion instruments
Piano
Saxophone - wind and percussion instruments
Soprano - voice and opera
Tenor - voice and opera
Trombone - wind and percussion instruments
Trumpet - wind and percussion instruments
Tuba - wind and percussion instruments
Viola - stringed instruments
Violin - stringed instruments</p>
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<p>It doesn’t matter. I, too, could never agree that Notre Dame, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice, Brown, Cornell, WashingtonU, to name a few, are superior to Berkeley.</p>
<p>^agreed…</p>
<p>kleibo, it’s odd but you’re right when you look at it that way both Stanford and MIT moved down.</p>
<p>@kleibo, did they use the same weighted factors to calculate the index? I can adjust the weights a little to put any university on top. Say, Stanvard, if I say anything starting with “stan” will weigh 100%, everything else is 0%. The way they got rid of yield --which puts the weight to 0 – is to favor some people who work at usnews.</p>
<p>Hate to redo this whole thing, but you can use all the data they supplied to re-rank everything by adjusting the weights.</p>
<p>There is no ivies, HYP, or HYPS, only Stanvard.</p>
<p>I don’t exactly see how a #16 ranking for Brown would be considered low.</p>
<p>Unless you want to argue the case why Brown should be ranked ahead of either Cornell, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Uchicago, Duke, Columbia, MIT, UPenn, etc.</p>
<p>then be my guest. But that’s a long battle.</p>
<p>Be happy with the #16 ranking :)</p>
<p>ewho - the overall score is the overall score - I’m mearly making an observation - Upenn and Caltech overall score did not go up and they are ranked at #4 because other schools did worse, not because they did better.</p>
<p>Further, there is a book on the shelves which analyses the core curriculum, if any, at major colleges and looks at the faculty in terms of whether they are biased liberals and the culture on the campus. Its an excellent resource for both moderates and conservatives as well as a good look at just what courses some of these students are taking…for example, at Stanford as part of general education credits you can take a course on Hawaiian spirituality. Oh great…one of the supposedly TOUGHEST schools in the nation to get into with supposedly the BEST AND BRIGHTEST STUDENTS…taking a course on Hawaiian spirituality instead of American History or Literature. Lovely. Employers be warned!</p>