2023 Gardening Thread

I buy my seeds at local nurseries, save seeds from my crops, and also occasionally order online. Tomatoes are very easy to grow from seed, and it is also easy to save seeds for the next season. I have a few trusted varieties that I keep growing from saved seeds. Altai and Kahuku Gold are two examples. I start them in clear plastic egg crates that my Costco eggs come in: make a cut in the bottom of each well of the crate for drainage, fill with potting soil, stick a couple of seeds in each well, and close the top (it works like a mini-greenhouse :laughing:). When the seeds sprout, I thin them out to one per well, open the top, and let them grow a bit. I them transplant the seedlings into bigger pots and keep them indoors on the kitchen counter until it is safe to plant outside. This strategy does require a transplanting exercise, but I don’t mind: this way, I minimize the time my kitchen is completely occupied by those lager pots. :laughing: Plus I also start other veggies in crates that can be moved outside without intermediate transplanting, and that frees up the space for more tomato pots. :slight_smile:

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My seed starting obsession.
It’s the only thing that keeps me sane in winter.
I have three of these 6-foot/48-inch-wide shelving units lining the bedroom … I think you can see the room from the space station with all the lights :slight_smile:
I start so many varieties that you simply cannot get started plants of - the tomato varieties alone are phenomenal.


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Re: seed starting - I’ve purchased seeds before from www.rareseeds.org and from
Native Seeds/SEARCH.

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When did you start them and when can you plant in your area?? So impressive!

Thank you!!

When you start depends on your last frost date, and the plant itself. And you count backward in weeks from those dates.

Some cannot be put out until the temperature is reliably in the 50s at night, like peppers and tomatoes. Others, like, snap peas and radishes, don’t mind a couple of light frosts, so they can go out/are sown very early.

My average last frost is May 7, and so I count backwards from that, look at the seed packet (tomatoes are meant to be started indoors 6-8 weeks before last frost, e.g.), and start the seeds somewhere around that time.

I usually am fighting myself not to start a bunch of seeds in February - it’s way too early for most, except, like, onions, celery, leeks.

But every year I push it, and every year I’ve got full-fledged plants fighting for space in the bedroom, lol, and every year I’m shuttling trays of plants out to the deck to harden off in the day and shuttling them back inside at night because it’s too early/cold to plant them out.

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Well I know all that info! Regarding frost dates, counting backwards etc

But your plants look ready to go. Are those past or current photos? Cause they look ready to plant soon! (Which is why I asked your location!)

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I bought <$5 of large cherry tomato seeds last year. Spent way more on seedling pots and grow lights. Repotted after needed. Gave most of them to friends.

I learned my lesson 2022 when I over planted tomatoes. 2023 I spaced them out and planted companion plants in my raised bed. This has been a weird year here. Still getting tomatoes!

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Oh I’m sorry, lol. These are old pix. I haven’t even dragged out the shelving units from the shed yet.

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I’ll take some of your extra - this is time of year in the midwest where tomatoes don’t resemble anything real!!!

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I refuse to buy tomatoes from the store anymore. I’ve gotten so spoiled with the taste off the vine. You are so right: store tomatoes don’t resemble real food.

The ONLY tomatoes I will buy all year around (when local garden tomatoes are not available) are these that I buy at Costco. They actually are quite flavorful and get even more so after sitting on the counter a few days. I slice and salt them just a bit with coarse salt before eating or putting on a salad or whatever and they are GOOD!

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Plus one to these! Others - not so much.

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Yes, they are good all year round, but just after the holidays there has been a sign at the local grocery store, not available due to growing conditions.

12 degrees (first day above zero in a while) today and the seed aisle was packed with women looking at seeds, potting soil and seed starter kits in Menards.

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Haha, yes, I’ll be in the stores soon! I like to check out Dollar Tree, believe it or not - they have 4/$1 seeds and if you’re just looking for basics like herbs it’s a great deal.

For the exotic and rare seeds, however, hubby got me Christmas gift cards to my favorite online seed purveyors and I’ve just blown $200 without even trying.
If anyone’s interested I’ll post my list. It’s light on tomatoes and peppers because I have SO many left over.

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I would read that list! :raising_hand_woman:t2:

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Brace yourself, lol (some are all caps because I usually type lists that way so I can read them when I can’t find my glasses)

ORDERED

True Leaf Market:
Albino beet

Lettuce leaf basil

Lemon basil

Premium late flat dutch cabbage

Merlot lettuce

Iceberg lettuce

Little Gem lettuce

Heatwave lettuce

Crisphead lettuce

Parsnip Harris

Peas early frosty

Malabar spinach

Acorn squash table king

Calendula Solar flashback mix

Butternut squash Waltham

Turnip Golden ball

Tomato great white

Tomato Triple L Crop

Pepper Keystone Resistant Giant

Cantaloupe Hales best jumbo

Thyme winter

Sunflower velvet queen

Sunflower ring of fire

Sunflower goldie

Sunflower earthwalker

Cabbage: purple savoy

Cabbage: Brunswick

Cabbage: mammoth red rock

Carrots: rainbow blend

Collards Georgia southern

Cucumbers Parisian pickle

Eggplant Long purple

Red onion sets Karmen red

Farmacie Isolde order:

ā€˜VIT’ MACHE

GELTOWER GROUND CHERRY

MƩrida Market Tomatillo

OPAL CREEK SNAP PEA

GRONINGER BRUSSELS SPROUT SEEDS

ACORAZONADO TOMATILLO

LUCIE’S BIG GOLDENBERRY SEEDS

SCHOENBRUNN GOLDENBERRY SEEDS

EARLY MOONBEAM WATERMELON SEEDS

GELBER ENGLISCHER SQUASH

BAKER CREEK ordered:

Blauhilde bean

Alabama blackeye butter bean

Hidatsa red indian bean

Filderkraut

Nasturtium Phoenix

Purple hull pinkeye bean

Alabama red okra

Nadapeno

Craigs grande

Brown jalapeno

Habanada

Sweet passion melon

Marion rutabaga

Patisson golden marbre scallop squash

Etuida pepper

Chupon de malinalcol

Early girl melon

Kaho melon

Silver yamato

Peppermint stick zinnia

Queen lime blush zinnia

Queen lime red zinnia

Queen lemon peach zinnia

Wow that’s crazy lots!! I hope you’ll share some updates along the way!

What are golden berries?

No clue yet! Like a ground cherry but not.
My husband makes killer jams from ground cherries and huckleberries so I figured this was worth a try.
Link

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I had decent luck with seeds from Renaissance Farms a couple of years ago, so will be shopping again for my heirloom tomatoes.

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