<p>bookworm- with what they knew at the time what should they have done? When they went to the home no one answered the door and there were not any signs of someone in distress.</p>
<p>Do we want a society where the police can enter a home without cause?</p>
<p>seems there was more then one report. if so, then they should have been more diligent.</p>
<p>there is something called a suspicious occurrence report. I bet more calls come to light. And more neighbors feeling awful for not connecting the dots. and the cops, well, they should have researched the house, saw who owned it, etc. there are ways to check is a few calls have been made about one house from different people. with computers its not so hard to track.</p>
<p>oh look, there was a call a while back about naked woman in back yard, and another one from a different neighbor about people banging on windows, gee, maybe its not just a grudge and we should seriouslly check this out</p>
<p>if nothing else to see if their were squaters living in a supposed empty home</p>
<p>Seahorse were there multiple calls? If so what were they and again not in hindsight but based on the calls received at the time what should the police have done. You need to consider the priority of other calls, manpower issues and what other assignments the police had.</p>
<p>Sorry, Tom, but if you have more than one call about a house, then I do think police are justified to enter and search. The brothers of the homeowner had police records. I wouldn’t care if my house was searched, as I am not hiding anyone.</p>
<p>bookworm- so if my brother has a record they can search my house? How about if you were not home or no one answered the door - they can break in?</p>
<p>We have a revaluation every once in a while and someone from the town or someone the town hires comes into the house and looks at the rooms and tallies them up. I suppose that you could refuse entry and they just assume the worst. You have ten bedrooms, five bathrooms, finished basement, fireplace, etc. and tax you accordingly.</p>
<p>Here is what it says about calls-
<a href=“http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/07/us-usa-missing-ohio-idUSBRE94600620130507[/url]”>http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/07/us-usa-missing-ohio-idUSBRE94600620130507</a></p>
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<p>if the police have no records, thought TWICE they went out to check on very suspicous occurences, then they FAILED by not even recording the events. Thats what a suspicous occurence report is for. So a pattern can be spotted. </p>
<p>its a disgrace they didn’t connect the two incidences, the naked woman and the banging on the windows, because the cops were lazy and didn’t log and file what happened.</p>
<p>shameful</p>
<p>we have a neighbor who is threatening people in our local small park about their dogs. We were told to get a paper trail going of reports so we can do something about him. A friend of mine was threatened with pepper spray and this guy followed her around when she was alone. I told her to report to the local police station. She went down the next day. </p>
<p>The officer on duty refused to even take the report. Saying it was a he said she said event. A week later this guy did paperspray and assualt a gay man, yelling horrid things. The police were called, and said it was a he said he said event. IF the police officer in the first case had done his job and taken the report and filed it away, with say, hashtags ala twitter, then when the next 911 call was placed re crazy neighbor, then maybe they would have handled the event differently and not arrested both men, or at least have taken the witness statements more seriouslly. What was the point of telling everyone to report encounters with a dangerous man if the officers were going to blow it off? Guess it took twenty emails from different people, complaints to the captain and an actual arrest for the cops to pay attention to a threat. We had over twenty different events and five different police reports or attempted reports. The guy felt empowerd as the police were lazy.</p>
<p>yeah, it makes me mad. several other women were stalked in the park by this guy, and the police were lax until we went up the chain to the Captain and Chief.</p>
<p>Cops can be great they can also take the easy road. The police did little to check out the reports. Naked woman? Child and woman banging on windows? Windows covered in plastic? Guess not enough to even do some research.</p>
<p>Seahorse they recorded one call. There might have been a second.</p>
<p>I love people who are perfect in hindsight. I think you are being overly judgmental in the Cleveland case.</p>
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What this does is confirm my longheld belief that the police are pretty much useless. D and I have had numerous conversations about how they are not going to help you if you have an issue. Obviously, just calling the police was not adequate on the part of the neighbors. If you suspect that there is something “strange” going on, you need to look into it further yourself. You can’t just think the police are going to do it for you. They are not. They are there for AFTER, not during or before.</p>
<p>You are assuming the calls were really made. Maybe they were. But when something like this happens, it’s all too common for someone to want his 5 minutes of fame or for someone reporters think OUGHT to have noticed something because he lived next door to claim he did and reported it to police. </p>
<p>I’m not claiming I know the truth–only that we should not assume what it is.</p>
<p>The THIRD report was of a naked woman crawling in the back yard.</p>
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<p>sylvan we also want them to follow rules. What authority did they have to breakdown the door when no one answered. They would not even been given a search warrant based on the information they had.</p>
<p>toledo is that the third report because the article says there were two reports.</p>
<p>tom, i think you answered your own question to me. You offered more evidence of calls about this house than I knew. I guess none of the calls triggered enough suspicion for a police investigation. So sad, in this case.</p>
<p>I do not see why they should have triggered enough suspicion for the police to get a warrant let alone kick in the door without one.</p>
<p>^Tom - what would you do if you were the neighbor and heard screaming or saw something you thought was strange? Just call the police (useless) and then forget about it? My point isn’t whether they should or shouldn’t follow the rules. My point is that they are going to be useless. Which you are pretty much agreeing with.</p>
<p>The three calls were the unrelated call in 2004, the 2011 report of a woman pounding on the window, and the naked woman crawling in the backyard (a few years ago).
The police only have a record of the 2004 visit, so we don’t know who is telling the truth.</p>
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