<p>[Applications</a> continue upward trend | Today at Brown](<a href=“Web Login Service”>Web Login Service)</p>
<p>Expect to receive 30k apps this year, representing the second year in a row we’ve had approximately 20% growth.</p>
<p>Wow, look at all those folders. Too bad they couldn’t go electronic this year.</p>
<p>Typical Brown doing things all stone age until it is almost too late to change. For instance, Dining Services still doesn’t take VISA/Discovery/AMEX. I bet they loose a chunk of change because of this.</p>
<p>I think they must be estimating up a but when they say 30k, at least according to the more precise (and less rounded) number I received.</p>
<p>Of course, things can change in a few days I suppose.</p>
<p>I can’t click on the OPs link, so I’m curious …</p>
<p>What is Arapollo is saying about Dining Services?</p>
<p>Do you mean they don’t allow you to PAY your dining account with a credit card? I wonder how you mean you think that will cost them money. The reason I ask is that I’m a dyed-in-the-wool DON’T fix things that aren’t broke person. I think we’re all TOO in a hurry to use technology that is NOT yet ready for the uses for which it’s intended. So I wanted to ask if y’all know how much it actually COSTS to accept credit cards? It varies by supplier, and Amex is the worst, but 2-4% per transaction, some with minimum fees (which is why you see signs at gas stations that they won’t allow you to use your credit card for a pack of gum, for instance).</p>
<p>There are 6,000 undergrads at Brown. Each has to get a meal plan of about $3700 year. Averaging 2.25% (because many more use VI/MC than Amex)…that’s a flat out loss of a half a million dollars to accept the card. Or are you saying they’ll lose revenue for the kids who are spending beyond the meal plan? Those kids will go elsewhere? Because I’m betting a lot of kids will find a way to keep some cash on them instead of always trekking farther from home for food. Sounds like a great place to save money to me.</p>
<p>Actually we don’t accept credit cards for tuition payments/room and board at all as far as I know. Two reasons 1) Cost of the university 2) Disaster that could cause a family if they cannot pay of their bill immediately.</p>
<p>Weird you cannot click his link here is the text version:
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I mean when visitors come such as parents and dignitaries they are forced to pay with cash at places like Josiahs, the Blue Room, and etc. Last year when I would sit in the blue room it seemed like a handful of people each day would be turned away for not being able to use their check cards. You misunderstood the question. Also I pay my tuition using my check card (debit card).</p>
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“Viral” indeed.
The unmentionability of the You-Know-Who-Factor is mandatory, of course, but even so one admires the ingenuity of the circumlocutions, both here and a couple of weeks ago in a New York Times interview of Miller.
One admires the</p>
<p>30k. 30k X average 5 = 150k pieces of writing + other infos = …</p>
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I’m not at all persuaded that the THIRD rewritten Brown.edu headline in as many days isn’t as INACCURATE as the first two.
The webmaster has made a hash of the job so far, and I think definitive communication between Jim Miller and the Brown.edu website has yet to be established.
If you parse it, the website’s “nearly 30,000 applications” tease links not to the Admissions Office but to an article in “Today at Brown,” an occasional publication.
That article by Anne Diffily is dated January 8, but it appears to be based on a January 1 interview with Jim Miller and its subject is only incidentally the number 30K. Mainly it’s about the overflow of work into Alumnae Hall and the logistical preparation for a POTENTIAL 30K.
The troublesome sentence is, “Now, with most of this year’s applications in hand AS OF THE JANUARY 1 REGULAR DEADLINE [emphasis mine], Dean of Admission James Miller and his staff expect to receive 30,000 applications.”
What you’re reading there is a reporter’s atmospherics, the lead “graph” of a feature rather than raison d’etre of the piece.
What was the date of Miller’s interview and what is the latency factor?
Later in the article Miller tells Diffily, “We could not have processed 30,000 applications in our building.”
Again, that’s a projection, very possibly spoken on January 1 and very possibly a surmise in the context of a discussion of logistical preparedness, NOT in-hand applications.
So, whaddaya know? Anybody?</p>
<p>Volunteers got an email dated Jan. 7 which included the following direct quote by Miller:</p>
<p>“Brown is experiencing another record year with over 28,000 Regular Decision applicants.”</p>
<p>Have fun parsing that.</p>
<p>[Brown</a> U. gets record 30,000 applications - PBN.com - Providence Business News](<a href=“http://www.pbn.com/detail/47193.html]Brown”>http://www.pbn.com/detail/47193.html)
OK, tned… here it is from the Providence Business News (which, admittedly, seems to use info from the Brown article-- same picture, e.g.) But is this acceptable to your skeptical way of thinking?</p>
<p>tned is on the right track most likely, they may have 30k now but I know that the numbers are not as concrete or timely as some people here are making them to be.</p>
<p>And let’s not forget: Who cares anyway? They have a more applications, so…they have more! End of story. It’s going to be hard to get in either way.</p>
<p>Nice. Three useful responses, a world record for CC.
Thanks, Fire. I’m parsing it that a low-end possibilty of 25K is eliminated. 28-29K still in the running.
Merci, franglish, for the link, but, as you say, the PBN contributes no original reporting.
Indeed.
And importantly, if you’re thinking like Columbia president George Rupp in 1995, and his managing executive, admissions director Eric Furda, you’re in new single-digit land.
Rupp and Furda famously understood that the notion of “hard-to-get-into-ness” would translate materially into raised applicant pool quality. Rupp was explicit on the importance of grow-the-denominator, and used to give prideful inteviews on the subject.
So Brown at 9.3 (or 9.5 or whatever) is not only the preoccupation of fetishists (of the type that abounds in CC). It will actually generate quality.</p>
<p>Brown AD Jim Miller emails Brown Daily Herald (article dated January 9):
[With</a> apps up 20 percent, Admission Office calls Alumnae Hall into service|Blog Daily Herald](<a href=“http://blogdailyherald.com/2010/01/09/with-apps-up-20-percent-admission-calls-alumnae-hall-into-service/]With”>http://blogdailyherald.com/2010/01/09/with-apps-up-20-percent-admission-calls-alumnae-hall-into-service/)
Anything over 29,800 gives an accept percentage of 9.3, based on past admits of 2785. (The disingenuous need not respond “So what?”)
And … BUMP.</p>