4th of July, Should We Laugh Or Cry?

[riprorin]

<p>A big problem is the teacher’s unions which block competition and reform. It’s tragic that kids are trapped in crappy schools.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>You still haven’t answered my question, riprorin.</p>

[geeps20]

<p>I like how global warming has become climate change now…I guess it increases the odds of being true</p>

[riprorin]

<p>Sally, so who are these 95%? When engineers and geoscientists are poled, it’s 36%.</p>

<p>Global warming is a money grab by politicians.</p>

<p>You are aware that there have beem multiple ice ages before man,right?</p>

[frazzled1]

<p>re #78 - that is one easy quiz. Fun to see the results! The youngest cohort (18-29) performed best, implying that someone is teaching science adequately somewhere. The middle-aged/latter-day Boomer group (50-64) came in second.</p>

<p>Now, the Pew Research Center tells us that the survey results are from 1006 randomly sampled adults. I am prepared to believe them, because that’s what they do. If Mr. Dice told us that his film was based on a random sample … well, I probably would not believe him, given that he appears to be a huckster of some sort. But I don’t think he has made any such claim. He may not know what one is, or he may just have wanted to entertain people or reinforce what some already believe.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>Finally a quiz that doesn’t care if I know the name of jay-Z new album or his baby!</p>

<p>I got 13 for 13!
It’s not that hard .
:)</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>Btw climate change is more accurate than global warming because every time we have a “ice storm of the century” those who would deny that defoliating the planet has any effect on weather pipe up with " I thought it was global warming".</p>

[myturnnow]

<p>RIPRORIN said “In all honesty, I would be a great juror in this case. I am a scientist, so I view things analytically.”</p>

<p>your fellow scientists;</p>

<p>Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.</p>

<p>[Climate</a> Change: Consensus](<a href=“http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus]Climate”>http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus)</p>

[riprorin]

<p>Only 38% of engineers and geoscientists believe global warming is man made. Actually, there is a growing concern about global cooling and another little ice age.</p>

[frazzled1]

<p>A lot of smart people in the National Academy of Sciences. Here’s how they get in: [Overview:</a> Membership](<a href=“http://www.nasonline.org/about-nas/membership/]Overview:”>Overview: Membership)

Members are elected to the National Academy of Sciences in recognition of their distinguished and continuing achievements in original research. Membership is a widely accepted mark of excellence in science and is considered one of the highest honors that a scientist can receive.

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<p>They don’t seem to think that “man made climate change has been debunked” (post 77):

“Climate change is occurring, is very likely caused primarily by the emission of green-house gases from human activities, and poses significant risks for a range of human and natural systems.”

[America’s</a> Climate Choices, Report in Brief](<a href=“America's Climate Choices, Report in Brief | PDF | Greenhouse Gas | Risk”>America's Climate Choices, Report in Brief | PDF | Greenhouse Gas | Risk), 2011</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

<p>Rip, did you link to something that said that already and I missed it? I’ve seen you list that number several times now but no link.</p>

[myturnnow]

<p>so RIPRORIN–you simply refute the sources we post, repeat your own OPINION, with no source. got it.</p>

<p>you said you were a scientist, so um, just exactly what kind of scientist are you now?</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>I’m glad I’m not only who has seen this happen over and over and over again. :rolleyes:</p>

[myturnnow]

<p>kind of ironic, given the thread that RIP started here, mocking others for their ignorance;)</p>

[riprorin]

<p>I’m not going to fight a war of links with you. There is not a consensus on man made global warming and even if there were, it doesn’t make it so. </p>

<p>Lord Moncton among many others have challenged Al Gore to debate the science of global warming and he’s consistently refused to do so.</p>

<p>Ever ask yourself why?</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

<p>Ah here we go:
[Peer-Reviewed</a> Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis - Forbes](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/]Peer-Reviewed”>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/)</p>

<p>The comments do a pretty good job of discrediting the original “data”. I don’t really care to read the whole of this: [Science</a> or Science Fiction? Professionals? Discursive Construction of Climate Change](<a href=“http://oss.sagepub.com/content/33/11/1477.full]Science”>http://oss.sagepub.com/content/33/11/1477.full)</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

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I’m not going to fight a war of links with you.

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<p>In other words… sources? Who needs those when I have SOUNDBITES!</p>

[Niquii77]

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I’m not going to fight a war of links with you.

Is that what you call it?</p>

<p>Credible sources and research builds your reputation as a credible poster. If you shout out statistics, don’t be surprised when someone want the link to the study of which you got your numbers from. </p>

<p>Thank, romani. I did a quick search of “38% of engineering believe in global warming” and found the exact link.</p>

[sally305]

<p>rip, you do know the Koch brothers are behind a lot of “vows” and “pacts” among congresspeople and others to refuse to research climate change?</p>

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A recent report by the Investigating Reporting Workshop at American University shows that the billionaire brothers David and Charles Koch have managed to persuade a large portion of Congress to sign a pledge in which they have vowed to vote against any climate change legislation unless it is accompanied by their favorite treat: An equivalent amount of tax cuts for the rich.

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<p>Take your pick of references.</p>

<p>[Koch</a> Brothers Started Secret ‘No Climate Tax’ Pledge To Block Environmental Progress - Americans Against the Tea Party](<a href=“http://aattp.org/koch-brothers-started-secret-no-climate-tax-pledge-to-block-environmental-progress/]Koch”>http://aattp.org/koch-brothers-started-secret-no-climate-tax-pledge-to-block-environmental-progress/)</p>

<p>[Koch</a> Industries: Secretly Funding the Climate Denial Machine | Greenpeace](<a href=“Greenpeace USA: For People and Planet”>http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries/)</p>

<p>[Koch</a> Brothers Pledge Helped Kill Climate Change Legislation: Report](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Koch Brothers Pledge Helped Kill Climate Change Legislation: Report | HuffPost Latest News)</p>

<p>[Koch</a> Brothers Working on Killing US Regional Climate Initiatives](<a href=“Sustainable Business NewsSustainable Business”>Sustainable Business NewsSustainable Business)</p>

[myturnnow]

<p>but what kind of scientist doesn’t rely on well, SCIENCE</p>

<p>seriously,what is your field of scientific study?? You identified yourself as a scientist in a post, so please, inquiring minds want to know?</p>