A few Questions

<p>ok so i submittd 2 sAT"S bio-M and Chem whcih i got above 700’'s on and i wrote that on my aplication but i also took a third MAth IIC whcih i got in the mid 600’s on now will they see the third SAT II score or only the first two i singed off on…</p>

<p>Also are they considering the Mid-year reports and when they read the application will they erase my old transcript and use my new since i moved from rank 6 to 3 so will they make that change</p>

<p>Are the admission decisions broken up by area and ethnicity and do they fill quotas from certain countries and around how many would they accept from a country such as Turkey!!!</p>

<p>good luck and please respond</p>

<p>bump anyone</p>

<p>bump anyone at all please answer</p>

<p>1)i don’t know about your test scores or how/if they will view the math IIc.</p>

<p>2)i’m not sure how brown does things, but a lot of schools make their initial decision/look and then wait for your mid-year report, and i’m pretty sure they don’t “erase” your initial transcript.</p>

<p>3) based on the bakke case, schools aren’t allowed to use a quota system. that said, the acceptance rate for internationals is much lower.</p>

<p>The bakke case only applies to public schools I think.</p>

<p>what’s the bakke case? do they sort you by where you live or your nationality?</p>

<p>and i’m pretty sure though not revealed to the public, every university has SOME sort of quota for internationals…</p>

<p>while private schools get a lot more leverage in terms of AA, etc, they still aren’t allowed to use actual quotas, due to the bakke case, and also the two university of michigan cases. for internationals, again, it is very hard to get in, but there is not some sort of quota; there is just a higher standard.</p>

<p>to the OP: following the civil rights movement, affirmative action programs became popular in american colleges, since these programs provided opportunities to diversify the student body and give back for previous injustices against ethnic, unrepresented minorities, which is a compelling state interest as matters of discrimination on the basis of race and nationality fall under strict scrutiny by the federal government. </p>

<p>in the 1970s('74 if im not mistaken) Allan Bakke, applied to the UC Davis medical school where he was rejected. after finding out that ethnic minorities with similar stats as his were accepted, he took his case to court, claiming that the university violated his civil rights. the case went all the to the US supreme court where the justices ruled 5-4 for Bakke. The famous argument made by Justice Powell was that quotas are essentially unconstitutional. there is a compelling state interest to diversify schools, but using quotas violated the due process/equal protection clauses of the 14th amendment, as a predetermined number of students from a particular group to be accepted would violate the amendment.</p>

<p>gratts v bollinger, and grutter v bolinger are the two recent (2003) examples of AA cases, in which the courts ruled against the students, upholding that quotas are illegal, but assigning ethnic minority students extra points in a point-system IS constitutional. the significance is that in 04, michigan revised the state constitution to ban AA completely, showing that the programs are no longer called for as they are seen as reverse racism and are no longer necessary as equality is more abundant in the states today.</p>

<p>i thought some explanation and clarification was needed. As far as Im concerned there are absolutely no quota systems still in use in the united states, public or private. I say private as well because the civil rights of citizens are being violated and this is still unconstitutional and against the law.</p>

<p>so can someone please answer my first two questions!!!</p>

<p>they will see you math II score if you sent in your SAT scores after you took that one. if you sent them all in before, then they won’t see it. </p>

<p>they will consider your mid-year reports for sure. so don’t worry. though i don’t think a small rise in rank will make a huge difference, honestly.</p>

<p>GOOD LUCK :)</p>