A great suggestion to CB. Get rid off the Writing and put Science in SAT as third

<p>section. This will resemble like ACT to a degree. Why do we emphasize language so hard? What is the point in taking Subject Tests in Science? </p>

<p>The education system in America should start emphasizing on Science and loosen up on language emphasis. After all, Spanish will be second official language in USA. It is time to revamp or overhaul the archaic system and put some thoughts into novel ideas. If we do not pick up on Science, we need to import lots of immigrants from India and China to fill the gaps. Let us draft a petition to include science portion in SAT. Who is in-charge of this system? Govt or Non-Govt? I am thinking of writing a petition to WH/Obama on this.</p>

<p>Um I hate the ACT science section, so no, I don’t want this at all.</p>

<p>Linger, I feel for you man. Science is a must to make it to next level.</p>

<p>I think it’s more effective in its current form than it would be if this change were made.</p>

<p>Hey Silverturtle, I know that you will not complain since you nailed 2400. LOL!</p>

<p>I hate writing dude, 3 mistakes, they gave me 710 in March. WTH???</p>

<p>In Asian countries the core curriculum is driven by Math and Science. I do not like ACT science either. I like the Florida FCAT science test for Juniors. Some other states follow the same. Great Florida Science Test - FCAT.</p>

<p>^^^What did you score on your essay? I got 4 wrong but my score was an 800. My essay was a 12.</p>

<p>Language is probably the most important part of our education. If you don’t have the skill to express yourself–whether its in science or english–then what good are you?</p>

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<p>I do not think my opinion is being colored by bias. Science is more the culmination of many other skills, and a test like this should assess more basic skills that could be applied to many fields, including science. Writing tests communication; Critical Reading tests interpretation and synthesis of ideas; and Mathematics assess problem solving and reasoning.</p>

<p>a science section would really test knowledge, rather than aptitude, and defeat many of CB’s claims regarding the SAT. not that the writing section is a particularly worthy assessment of one’s writing ability. rather, reverting to the old 1600 format would be great, imho. Let the ACT be the ACT, and the SAT be itself.</p>

<p>in my home state of pa, our standardized tests (PSSA’s) got a science section implemented.
bad, bad idea.
some schools even cancel the scores because they are so low.
the science was very hard, as it was more knowledge than reasoning based.</p>

<p>haha hofstra I’m in pennsylvania too. The science section of the PSSAs is a joke; I’m pretty sure my whole school failed. It seems like you’d need to take environmental biology to do well on that…but then again maybe not since it’s a pretty poorly written test imo.</p>

<p>But putting science on the SAT will <em>not</em> help the US catch up with china/india/wherever else. I highly doubt that forcing high school students to study the basic science that would be on the SAT would make a difference. Is anyone a better reader because CR is on the SAT? I know I’m not - I’m just the same as I was before I had to take the SAT.</p>

<p>Besides, it seems like the US education system is trying to emphasize science. I mean it’s always part of the core curriculum, there are tons of science camps and competitions, and I know even my public rural school has all these “science in motion” and “science wins” type programs coming in all the time to try to get students into science.</p>

<p>I think we’re just behind countries like China because our standards as a whole are lower and in general, our work ethic is not as strong. Plus don’t you have to do well on that one test to even go to high school in china in the first place? Idk maybe I’m making that up. But if it’s true that would make a difference as well - picture if all American high schools were like the rigorous competitive ones.</p>

<p>My senior course load is entirely humanities and arts based, I have not touched the sciences since junior high, I do not intend to use any science in my high education, or any part of life, in fact. I’ll probably major in a language or classics, those sort of things. Why would science then, be a “must to the next level” for me? If you’re talking about the skills needed in analysis of information, one could argue that Critical Reading is already covering that. Besides, without the writing section, there would be no essay, and without an essay that makes the SAT even more flawed. If there was still an essay, what will the SAT be out of then?</p>