It is, but does it really seem plausible that the actual assault rate is 60 times higher than the reported rate? I have never seen anything that shows that kind of a spread. That is orders of magnitude beyond the data. RAINN reports that 68% go unreported, not 5900%
Hmmmm…how are 5900 percent of rapes unreported?
LOL. Good point. You know what I meant, though. The supposed 1 in 4 number is 5900% higher than the reported rate. 
Happy?
Those who nitpick are going to get nitpicked.
It really doesn’t matter to me but I am happy for now.
So then the claim would be that for every one woman who reports - 59 others experience sexual assault but do not report in the span of four-five years. In Cal State Fullerton we’re saying that instead of no sexual assaults there were really more like 633 that were swept under the rug for one reason or another. If that’s the case then the researchers should be probing the question of did they report and if not why did they choose not to report. Secondly perhaps colleges should permit anonymous self-reporting of sexual assaults as an alternative/additional option to officially reporting an assault. And during the anonymous reporting they could learn about further steps that could be taken if they chose to do so. The initial self-report could be less intimidating than kicking up a firestorm which would follow an actual report of a felony.
Also as I mentioned it could be the case that some schools and areas are doing things right and in fact fewer sexual assaults occur there. If that’s the case, then those should be identified and analyzed to try and find out what’s working and replicate that.
Well, one of the reactions at many schools to the Dear Colleague letter is to set up surveys that allow the equivalent of (retrospective) anonymous reporting, so there’s that.
More seriously, though, the UC reporting data isn’t a good baseline because it’s Clery Act data, and that set of numbers is…problematic. I mean, it’s useful as a basic gauge for comparing schools (though it really only works for comparing similarly situated schools, and falls apart entirely for urban campuses), but the limits on what gets counted make it rather thoroughly useless as a way of looking at what the actual crime rate at a school is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clery_Act
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/about/data-center/school/clery-act
Food for thought if it hasn’t been posted previously.
www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/06/30/colleges-turning-judges-campus-sexual-assault-cases
^^Your tuition dollars at work lining the pockets of retired judges, attorneys and private investigators, next thing you know they will have established a completely parallel judicial system to “deal” with the little darlings outside of the real judicial system.
Cripes if they want certain kids to leave the campus for good…give them their tuition money back, give them their transcript and send them on their way so the accuser doesn’t have to think about whatever it was that wasn’t criminal but caused stress and anxiety enough to want to drive someone away. If it’s not serious enough to call the police and the primary objective is to get someone off the campus…then colleges should just do it without all this head pounding. There’s no ethical dilemma here, if it’s not a crime then the student is a customer not a criminal. Return the customer’s money for the semester and their current transcript without commentary and send them on their way.
“does it really seem plausible that the actual assault rate is 60 times higher than the reported rate?”
It might or might not be that high, but it’s far more plausible, to me, than the idea that any group of 35,000 young people had no sexual assaults.
A crime does not need an arrest or conviction to be a crime. There are crimes committed all the time with no arrests and no convictions. I am not talking about sexual assaults either.
There seems to be this idea…no arrest-no crime. That is just bs.
While it imperative to do everything possible to prevent assaults, being expelled by weight of a kangaroo court as in the Occidental case is pretty horrible too.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a33751/occidental-justice-case/
Nobody has ever said that.
Personally, I think both ends are equally unlikely. The truth obviously lies somewhere in the middle (as almost always).
TV4caster, it’s implied.
I don’t think anyone is implying it either. Obviously there are lot more actual assaults than there are accusations, and way more than actual convictions.
It is possible, however, to make assumptions about one based on the others, and what some of us are saying is that the numbers probably sit somewhere in the middle of two extremes, not at the upper end.
I think most people think the numbers lie in between. I do. I don’t want to speak for everybody.
As far as somebody implying… I am very very sure. I am not talking about you.
I wanted to share this. It might make it easier to understand what it feels like for a victim of sexual assault.
@emeraldkity4 That looks like great fun non-threatening but meaningful material to teach about sexual boundaries and even personal boundaries generally. Good stuff.
Back when I was in school the women’s center showed a video that was intended to teach about the feelings of a rape victim as a stranger rape was enacted on screen in all its ugliness and terror. The general point was that rape was a crime of power and control via inducing paralyzing fear and not necessarily sexual.
In another exercise they attempted to teach men about how bad it felt to be objectified by parading us sans shirts in front of a group of observing college women who were supposed to hoot and whistle and generally act like sexist pigs. But it probably wasn’t the best lesson. I liked the attention.
Interesting to see how the education and prevention efforts are evolving.
They should have paraded you in front of large men, who in addition to catcalling also did a little grabbing and groping.
Well maybe. It was supposed to be a taste of objectification. Not Scared Straight - San Quentin Edition.