I know that intersection well. The streets and sidewalks, I believe, are Los Angeles. The land they are adjacent to is all federal land.
The northeast corner is the VA cemetery. Northwest and southwest corners are on the VA property, which is federal. And the southeast corner is the Federal Building.
I have no idea about the details of how LA city services and these properties intersect. The Federal Building, for instance, is often the site of protests and demonstrations. I’ve seen LAPD helping to maintain order/provide security.
At any rate, Westwood is definitely part of Los Angeles. And if you stand at the corner of Pico and Sepulveda, then you are in the middle of a song.
The media say San Lewis. I think the only concern is you not say Louie.
The Federal Building is at Wilshire and Sepulveda, it’s being called LA, or Sawtelle. But Sawtelle’s not incorporated.
Btw, we have this same confusion in New England. Of course. Pockets and intersections called whatever.
I was told UCLA needed to be addressed as LA, not Westwood, as there’s another Westwood, CA, up north. ? But that was way back when zip codes weren’t read digitally.
(1) You are out-of-state
(2) You are in-state
(3) You are in-state, but speak Spanish as a first or second language
(4) You are local
(5) You are in LA
Ok -this has nothing to do with what to call our state, but I JUST HAD LUNCH WITH DICK VAN DYKE!!! Our not-for-profit just hosted a small lunch to thank our volunteers, and Dick Van Dyke agreed to come speak. It was more like entertaining than it was a speech. A little singing and dancing and a lot of laughing. What a nice man- we are lucky to be close to his home and he volunteers a lot around here, but we feel so lucky! He helps our local schools with a fundraiser every year, so my daughter had already met him, but I haven’t. I served him cake!!!
"UC Berkeley
In first references, use the official name of the campus: University of California, Berkeley. In subsequent references, use UC Berkeley (especially if Berkeley alone could be confused with the city of Berkeley), Berkeley, Cal, or the university.
Do not use:
University of California at Berkeley (except where a comma causes confusion), U.C. Berkeley, U.C.-Berkeley, UCB, U.C.B. Cal Berkeley
Berkeley or Cal?
In general, use Berkeley in academic contexts and Cal in alumni, athletics, or informal contexts."
I went to Lehigh and for some reason their campus culture had evolved such that it was a mortal sin to refer to fraternities as frats so I can somewhat relate to the California/Cali frustration. I’m much older now and have a freshman in college and a junior in high school going on lots of college tours. Every time I hear someone use the word frat I have a visceral reaction.
News Bulletin: after spending a morning walking along the Laguna Beach coast, and having breakfast in Corona Del Mar, you can call our state whatever you like - I’m just happy to call it MINE. I actually just saw an article on why we call all the freeways “the” in SoCal. It’s apparently related to the way that freeways used to be named by their terminal destinations. So… the Garden Grove Freeway terminated at Garden Grove. Now it terminates at… Seal Beach I think. I am old enough to remember when all the freeways went by the names, and never got it straight. I left Cali (irony there) in 1979, and returned in 1984. While i was gone, common usage seemed to have morphed into “the 22” or “the 57.” I was thrilled. Some people still call one of our very first freeways the Santa Ana freeway, but most are over 65. I don’t know if it EVER terminated in Santa Ana: as long as I can remember, it has gone from Mexico to Canada. I can still remember in the mid 70s when the 57 freeway was completed. My Mom convinced the private contractor that built the freeway to let them do a big charity event on the freeway the weekend before it opened. It was a fabulous party, but they said they would never do it again, as they had to “steam clean” the freeway after the party to get it to pass inspection. LOL!
@prezbucky It’s been called The People’s Republic of Berkeley as long as I can remember…and that’s a long time. But that’s referring to the surrounding city, not the school.
“What does bother me is that as a Central Californian, I notice some younger people are referring to our area as “The 805” as in our area code. I think maybe it started as a radio thing, and of course we do have our “805” beer. I am even seeing it on bumper stickers. I think it sounds pretentious”
If these younger people said “the 805” anywhere near San Diego, everyone would assume they were referring to the I-805 freeway. It’s a major north-south freeway in San Diego.
@shoot4moon- I grew up calling the freeways by a name. My Mom took the Harbor freeway to work. We took the San Diego freeway to LAX. We went on the Artesia freeway on our way to Disneyland. I don’t know when that changed.
Regarding the use of “frat”, as new members we were told that we shouldn’t shorten “fraternity” to “frat” because we wouldn’t shorten “country” to “c__t”, would we? (true story)
Yes, it’s a juvenile and disgusting comparison, but the reverence for the fraternity (and offense at the oft derogatory “frat”) beneath it was true, and we got it; so from that point forward the word “frat” vanished from our use and still, hearing or reading it is like nails on chalkboard. When people say it, I assume they are picturing wet t-short contests, hazing, drinking to excess… and that’s not really what fraternities are about.
Maybe the hatred of “Cali” isn’t so deep, or considered, but I understand how nicknames can really strike a nerve. (even if users don’t know it or don’t intend any offense…)
@prezbucky our campus indoctrination to the accepted vernacular included the same reference you noted as well as “you don’t call a dictionary a d__k do you?”
