Academy Nominations

Colleges & Universities Service Academy Parents
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<p>Here are some information from the American Heartland that I found interesting.</p>

<p>We used to live in northwest Ohio and I was looking at the website for the current Representative for the U.S. House from my former home. It can be characterized as mainly rural with a few small cities (35,000 - 50,000). The representative posts his service academy nomination information via press releases. Based on the number of nomination applications received each year, if a candidate is qualified, he/she is likely to receive a nomination to any of the service academies of his/her choice. It appeared that in the past 4 years the limit of 10 nominations per academy slot was reached twice. This happened for nominations to the USNA in 2005 and the USMA in 2003.</p>

<p>For the current admission cycle, there are 9 nominees listed with a total of 16 nominations given. Seven were awarded 2 nominations and the other 2 were awarded 1 nomination. For the 9 nominees the breakdown between academies were as follows:
7 - USMA (5 with 2 nominations / 2 with 1 nomination)
4 - USAFA (4 with 2 nominations)
3 - USMMA (3 with 2 nominations)
2 - USNA (2 with 2 nominations)</p>

<p>I then looked at history (3 additional years were available) to see if there were trends. Here are the results (using the same order as above).</p>

<p>2005: 13 Nominees / 27 Nominations (5 received 3 or 4)
8 - USMA
5 - USAFA
4 - USMMA
10 - USNA</p>

<p>2004: 11 Nominees / 26 Nominations (5 received 3 or 4)
8 - USMA
6 - USAFA
5 - USMMA
7 - USNA</p>

<p>2003: 15 Nominees / 23 Nominations (3 received 3)
10 - USMA
7 - USAFA
0 - USMMA
6 - USNA</p>

<p>With only 4 years of data, trends are difficult to determine. But it seems that in the past year there has been a decrease in overall interest in the academies in this Congressional District. However, it seems like the ones that applied are more focused on what they want. This year the nominees applied for only 1 or 2 academy nominations compared to several that requested 3 or 4 nominations in the past. It appeared that there was a strong preference for USMA (7 out of 9) in 2006, which was surprising considering the bad press given to the Army due to the ongoing war. Another suprising observation was that in 2006 none of the nominees received (and likely requested) a nomination(s) to both USMA and USNA. In the past, about 50% of the applicants received (requested) nominations to both USMA and USNA.</p>

<p>Overall number of applicants declined by 31%.

  • Drop in 2006 applications; 9 nominees compared to past average of 13
  • USMA; interest level down in '06; 7 nominations to past average of 9
  • USAFA; interest level down in '06; 4 nominations to past average of 6
  • USMMA; interest level constant in '06; 3 nominations to past average of 3
  • USNA; interest level down in '06; 2 nominations to past average of 8</p>

<p>The historical strong preference for nominations to USNA seems to have declined sharply in 2006, while other academies have gained favor or remained at historical levels among the applicants from this Congressional District. This may be a result of the overall decline in nomination applications skewing the numbers for 2006.

  • USMA; 44% of nominations in '06 vs. past average of 34%
  • USAFA; 25% of nominations in '06 vs. past average of 24%
  • USMMA; 19% of nominations in '06 vs. past average of 12%
  • USNA; 12% of nominations in '06 vs. past average of 30%</p>

<p>Before anyone suggests that I am trying to say that one of the Academies is better than another. That is not my intent. I feel that each is a fine institution and I am grateful for all of the Cadets and Midshipmen that take up the challenge of attend one of the Service Academies and serve our great nation. I know and respect current Midshipmen from this Ohio Congressional District and my current Congressional District in Texas.</p>

<p>God bless all of the Academy Cadets and Midshipmen, and service men and women and their families.</p>

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<p>GEB, great info. You had to dig for that. Our state’s MOC put out little information so searching for numbers is next to impossible. There are a few press releases out there but its all I can find. Very interesting to see a state’s numbers so thanks for finding that!</p>

<p>“God bless all of the Academy Cadets and Midshipmen, and service men and women and their families.” DITTO!!</p>

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<p>Wow that deffinately is interesting.</p>

<p>Last year when i applied to the AFA from my congressman, i know that not all the nomination slots (for 1 vacancy) were not used. I think somewhere between 7 or 8 (myself includeD)</p>

<p>This year only 4 (again, myself included) for AFA. This basically ment that if you had the minimums that the academy requires, you had a nomination.</p>

<p>I feel bad for the people where there is heavy competition (more than 10 people applying!) since there are people who basically automatically get their nominations.</p>

<p>Also, my counsin said his representative had NO ONE apply for AFA (3 for MA and 3 for NA). Theoretically if any one applied for an AFA nomination they would get it AND the appointment (since they would not be competing against anyone).</p>

<p>Deffinately interesting numbers indeed…</p>

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<p>What state are you and your cousin in? Just curious.</p>

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<p>yea i have to know where to drive the U-Haul.</p>

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<p>When my son was going for his interview with Congressman Boyd in Florida for his nomination the staff said that applications for nomination to all the academies in his district were “way down” from previous years. They didn’t break it down but I know my son was the only one seeking nomination to USMMA. Senator Martinez did release statewide nominations and there were only 6 for USMMA.</p>

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<p>Yeah, Senator Martinez sent out his list for all of the Academies. He had two slots open for both USMA and USAFA so he could nominate 20, but he only had one open for USNA so he could only nominate 10… I was wondering if anyone knows how LOAs work. What if more than one person he nominates has an LOA. Do they automatically get in (all of them), and if they do get in does that kick out everyone else from that slot? Because in that case I feel bad and want to give back one of my nominations… and about that, can you refuse one of them? The Academy admissions lady said I couldn’t, but I thought she must be wrong. If I use one shouldn’t I be able to give the other one back. I personally met one of the girls on the waiting list for my Congresswoman nomination… and she had an LOA.</p>

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<p>If you have an LOA the academy will find you a nomination, even if they have to go to another state MOC to get one. Also LOA’s are not “automatic”. They are contingent on you getting everything done that they say by their deadlines. Then you will get your Appointment letter.</p>

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<p>bossf51 - both are in illinois, which is kinda of interesting because illinois is one of the more competitive states (at least near the chicago area - which we are).</p>

<p>My cousin lives a bit further out from chicago, about a 2 hour drive.</p>

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<p>Applicants with LOAs need to get a nomination from their home MOC. Those with LOAs are “usually guaranteed” to get a nomination as the nomination boards typically are advised of which candidates received LOAs. Their nomination is counted as one of the 10 allowed per opening for the MOC, but the admission with LOA does not count against the particular MOC, allowing another to also get admitted. The academies sometimes match unfilled admissions slots from around the country for recruited atheletes.</p>

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<p>We are in a competetive area (Cong. Hobson’s-OH). My son is one of three from the same high school + 2-4 more from the same district. I only knew of one with a LOA. From our school, 1 had 1 nom. and the other 2 each had 2 nom’s. Of the same three, two recieved Sen. nom’s for different academies.</p>

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<p>Idaho is about the same, if you’re qualified you’ll probably get a nomination. From talking to several candidates with nominations this year it appears they don’t do interviews either.</p>

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<p>Taffy…“U-Haul”…you just made me laugh out loud…good one :)</p>

<p>GEB, thanks for the research and posting.</p>

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<p>I realized my numbers were not correct as to the number of applicants in OH- Hobson’s didtrict. I will post the accurate numbers as soon as I recieve them from his office.</p>

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<p>New data from Ohio Congressional District-07:
22 students completed applications, 18 recieved nominations (some have more than one), Breakdown: AF 10, WP 5, Navy 10, MM 3.
From the 18 students, 3 are from our High School, a total of 4 from our county.</p>

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<p>Momof3boyz and GEB,
I am curious about this info from my district. How/where did you locate this?</p>

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<p>I spoke to the Congressional Assistant at Hobson’s office. She sent me an e-mail with the data. I just contacted our Senator’s office for his stats. A total of 166 Applicants conpleted their files. A total of 64 Senatorial nominations were given in the state of OH. Breakdown as follows:
10 x 2 (Senators DeWine & Voinovich) to AF
10 x 2 to Navy
10 x 2 to Army
2 x 2 to Merchant Marines</p>

<p>I hope this helps others that follow the stats.</p>