<p>You can ask her all you want. But asking and getting are not the same. And if by asking more you get less, you will have to “settle” for the 35 and 36’s she received in the other areas. Asking is the external motivation. Getting is the internal motivation.</p>
<p>gee, getting 35 and 36 on all sections but science, having an almost perfect gpa, and all the rest</p>
<p>gosh, what a sad sack of a daughter that dad is disppointed in her not being perfect</p>
<p>LB, agree our children should put in effort. Your daughter scored in the 99% for the ACT. She has an excellent score for all scholarships. I know you have read many times about kids with perfect scores not being admitted. What is a college to think about a kid who retakes a test after scoring 99% on it? What does this say about this student? I don’t know, do you?</p>
<p>geez, give the poor girl a break. </p>
<p>living up to a parent’s expectations is hard enough. livin up to a parent’s perfect expectation must be excruciating.</p>
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<p>Double amen, sunnyflorida!!</p>
<p>sax, thank you for bring up a good point. I don’t know… As I said in the OP, I am having a mixed feeling now. </p>
<p>Is there really a big difference between, say, 34 or 35? It is only about two or three answers and they should be good for any school.</p>
<p>It will be up to DD if she would take it one more time.</p>
<p>Not really sure how the ACT is considered for scholarship cut offs, but considering the SAT cutoff generally isn’t 1600/2400, I doubt they are going to cut off at 36. And they probably look at the composite, not the individual sections. For outside (not school related, which is all you’re going to get if you go to an Ivy really) scholarships, the weight does not seem to be as heavily on standardized test scores as on community involvement. There may be some scholarships where it is, but the vast majority that people in my class have received were based on things like citizenship and community service, leadership - they may look at SATs, but it’s a much lesser factor than grades and teacher recommendations. </p>
<p>For school related scholarships, generally it’s going to be whatever raises their mid-50th percentiles. A lot of the schools that I looked into on the East Coast didn’t use the ACT for this purpose, they used SAT scores (as a more standard measure of comparision) but I’m sure in other parts of the country it’s a different story, so I couldn’t really say. Even top schools probably have a mid 50th composite of around 33, so 35 would be above range. Given your posting history, I assume she will be applying to Yale, in this case they will accept submitting only the ACT and they will use that in place of the subject tests. That is the place where the 30 in science (which would still probably not really matter, they take the three highest) might be looked at harder beyond the composite. But every other school I applied to and most I’ve heard of, required SAT subjects even if you took the ACT.</p>
<p>early in the year, DD got a SAT I score none of us liked and I came to this forum asking for help. After much debate, we set following plan: focus on her four AP test first, then three SAT II and then ACT. If necessary, she would retake SAT I again in September.</p>
<p>Based on this ACT, I am pretty sure we will not take SAT I again. DD wants to take a math and a language SAT II herself next semester. I will be fine if she does not want to take any more test. However, I will pay for one more ACT if she wants another shot with some efforts.</p>
<p>For ACT, do colleges combine the highest scores on the different sections from tests taken on different dates? (As I said, I am not familiar with the ACT.) If they don’t and your daughter got such high scores on the other parts, she is risking the possibility that her scores on the other parts decrease when she retakes. On the SAT, they always tell you that, for very high scores, there is a very high chance of a lower score on retake.</p>
<p>PS How did the prom go? Did you ever report back to us after all of the hair and dress tips we gave you? If you did, I missed it!</p>
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Nothing good, I’d imagine. I think she’ll look like a kook taking it again. IMHO, anyway.</p>
<p>She could do worse on the next ACT. My son raised his science score the second time, but his english score dropped. I wouldn’t have her retake. She is going to be stressed enough completing applications. Let her enjoy her senior year.</p>
<p>Question to the board - should I schedule a discussion of HS QC to see if DD needs to take ACT one more time because of this 30 on Science? </p>
<p>I would wait until her SAT II scores come out Thursday. If they are near 800, we are done taking any tests.</p>
<p>how did she do overall and on the other sections? </p>
<p>FWIW, she can retake the ACT as many times as she wants and only submit the best score, so there should be no fear if she happens to score higher on science but lower composite.</p>
<p>GolfingMom - most of the colleges do superscore ACT - adding up the highest from each of the test.</p>
<p>The problem is that even if she did get a 35 on her next science test, it would only raise her super composite score by 1 point, almost meaningless.</p>
<p>that sounds like a fair plan, LB.</p>
<p>Congrats to your daughter on scoring better than 98 students out of every 100 students who took the test.</p>
<p>I think you should try to stop saying “we” when you mean “she” (as in #32 above). It gives the impression that you are far too involved, whether or not this is actually the case.</p>
<p>why are you so focused on perfection, it is not healthy for your daughter and you are just setting her up to disappoint you, as no matter what she does, it is never good enough for you, and if some of us see that through your posts, can’t imagine what your D is dealing with in person</p>
<p>CGM, I am just a caring father who wants his children to do the best they could. For the Nth time, I will be glad to take any score if DD had put in a couple of days to study. </p>
<p>Now you have metioned, she have had surprised me a couple times now - getting awards above and beyond my expectation.</p>
<p>lb, why are you seeing her scores before she does? are you opening her mail?</p>
<p>she should see them first, and when you say “bad” news because she got a 30, egad</p>
<p>MOT, she got herself a dress, her date picked her up (I took two photo and shaked his hand) and they went. Next morning, they got back and we never really talked about it. I guess nothing really exciting happened.</p>
<p>For those who are totally confused. This is to answer MOT’s question about DD’s prom.</p>