<p>which schools actually superscore? </p>
<p>some battles are worth fighting, some are not. let the 35 be and let her focus on essays instead of another act.</p>
<p>“MOT, she got herself a dress, her date picked her up (I took two photo and shaked his hand) and they went. Next morning, they got back and we never really talked about it. I guess nothing really exciting happened”</p>
<p>Maybe you should take as much interest in the rest of your daughter’s life as you do her test scores. How do you not talk about big events in your child’s life???
There is much more to life than test scores.</p>
<p>Compare SAT and ACT scores</p>
<p><a href=“http://phs.prs.k12.nj.us/Guidance/SAT_ACT_Comparison.pdf[/url]”>http://phs.prs.k12.nj.us/Guidance/SAT_ACT_Comparison.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/satactandotherexams/a/comparesatact.htm[/url]”>http://collegeapps.about.com/od/satactandotherexams/a/comparesatact.htm</a></p>
<p>I think she is in great shape.</p>
<p>Oh, no, she is in terrible shape and must keep retaking the test over and over!</p>
<p>A composite score of 32 is in the top 1%
A composite score of 33 is in the top 1%
A composite score of 34 is in the top 1%
A composite score of 35 is in the top 1%
A composite score of 36 and she’ll get her name in the newspaper</p>
<p>
Great point, keymom.</p>
<p>Well, I’m with Laserbrother on two points here. First, it’s annoying that the darn kids won’t study to try to improve their scores on the tests. My daughter got a 31 the first time without studying (which I was pleased with, as I’d projected a 29 and only hoped for a 30) and insisted on taking it again - and then didn’t study for it the second time, either. Very irritating. Second, I’m in total agreement with lb’s performance regarding the prom. Parents are far too nosy about their kids’ social lives, IMHO. She went to the prom. She didn’t get arrested. She didn’t report any outrages or other items she felt needed Dad’s attention: situation duly noted and handled. It makes sense to be concerned and involved with your kids’ education. Their dates? Not so much so.</p>
<p>Keymom and StickerShock,
I think your comments to Laserbrother about his daughter’s prom were unnecessarilly harsh. A few months ago, LB, in all sincerity, asked for advice on what was required for a prom, since his D was invited and he was not familiar with prom customs. </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=329680[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=329680</a></p>
<p>I think his response above would be similar to most dads I know - they usually aren’t as “into” what happens at proms as we moms are, as long as everything goes smoothly with no problems. </p>
<p>I was actually interested in how the prom went, and I did not mean to give others an “opening” to be nasty to LB on something unrelated to his question on this thread.</p>
<p>Edit: I cross posted with Kluge above as far as prom goes. I agree with his comments.</p>
<p>Thank you Kluge and MOT. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>laserbrother- I’ll try to be a little gentle here, but I’m really holding myself back. I think you are WAY off base. This attitude is going to backfire on you. It may not be this year or next, but it WILL backfire. You are way too enmeshed in your daughter’s academic accomplishments (or, in your mind, lack thereof). You must let go of this. Your future relationship with your daughter and her emotional health are in serious jeopardy. You are being completely unrealistic and harsh and setting her up for constant disappointment in herself. I am here to tell you, from personal experience, that college admissions officers do NOT expect perfection. In fact, a kid can present as much more interesting, mature and well-rounded if there is an absence of perfection. You are packaging your daughter as a set of statistics, and this is going to be a huge disadvantage to her.<br>
You simply have to figure out a way to stop. I know some of it is cultural, but that isn’t going to matter as your wonderful, bright daughter gets rejected from the college you select for her because she is a boring set of perfect stats.</p>
<p>I actually think the company ones children keeps is pretty important.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of overinvolved parents, period, whether it is in “our” ACT scores, or “our” prom.</p>
<p>But, I do think a healthy interest in both is appropriate.</p>
<p>See, I totally disagree with the idea that it was a harsh comment. The obsession on this board with getting into the “best” schools doesn’t seem to take into account what is a good fit for the kid.
It seems like so many here think that if their kids get into their (many times parent’s) desired elite school, lifelong happiness follows.
My point is that there is so much more to our kids lives than academics.
There is alot in high school life that grabs their focus and rightly so.
Not everything should be academic or something they are doing to put on thier resume.</p>
<p>I think we need to cut Laserbrother some slack. He is coming here openly for help, suggestions and insight. He continues to do this even after being raked over the coals again and again for being so involved.I think we can help him, and lasergirl too, if we go about this in as positive a way as we can.
mowc: lots of good points</p>
<p>That’s not a low score, you’re too strict and nuts if you think it’s not. Your daughter did fine.</p>
<p>My goodness.</p>
<p>@ MomofWildChild</p>
<p>You said it just right.</p>
<p>Lay of your kid, she did fine.</p>
<p>I have not read all the comments (there are a lot of them!!). I can share the OPs frustration somewhat. My D retook the ACT, not to get into college but to try and get a particular guaranteed scholarship in our State that requires a particular ACT score. She was close so I asked her if she would study for it if I signed her up for it one more time in June (the last date that will be eligible). She said she would so i signed her up for it - paid out more money on prep books - she had 2 weeks with no school before the test - and she barely looked at them. Did no practice tests on the science (which is what she needed to improve on). I keep telling myself I should just not worry about it - if she had got the required score it would have given her a $5000 a year scholarship which would have entirely wiped out her loans and she would have graduated 0 in debt instead of the projected $20,000. I just need to let it go now as there are no more chances and the debt will be her debt not mine - but I would have loved to see those student loans go away!!</p>
<p>I regularly work as a room supervisor for ACT at the college where I teach. Due to time constraints, it is far easier for a student to score well in English and math and much harder for reading and the science reasoning, the last section. I have been doing this since my oldest was a junior in high school and many of my childrens’ peers have been in my testing room at different times. I have noticed that the smartest students usually just barely finish the last two sections or don’t finish at all, while the low achieving kids are finished long before time is called. Your daughter’s scores are FANTASTIC, but if she had never taken the test before, time may have been an issue and a second time may do the trick. If SHE wants to re-test, your strategy should be to leave the high school information blank when registering. That way only your family will receive the results. If they are pleasing, you can spend a few extra $$$ to provide scores to colleges,the high school, and scholarship programs.</p>
<p>One of the schools on DS1’s list offers a nice scholarship for kids who hit certain benchmarks on the SAT and SAT-II. We told DS “it’d be reallly nice…” if he made those scores, but said that knowing they were comfortably within his reach without a lot of extraordinary effort on his part. Getting the scores doesn’t guarantee admission, but if he is accepted and attends, it’s a nice chunk of change!</p>
<p>Kluge, you actually had a score “projection” for you D’s ACT? That boggles my mind. </p>
<p>I guess my H is lucky that he & our D share the same sense of humor & they are very close. After formals, proms, or any big events there are tons of funny stories to share. Obsessing over a kid’s scores & tests while having no lighthearted conversations is unhealthy. If my kids achieve 99th percentile scores on the SAT or ACT, they will say “Yipee! I’m done” and head to the beach. I’ll do a happy dance too.</p>
<p>A 30 is a great score!</p>
<p>Congratulate her, and then discuss what she can do to improve.</p>
<p>Quote:
What is a college to think about a kid who retakes a test after scoring 99% on it? </p>
<p>“Nothing good, I’d imagine. I think she’ll look like a kook taking it again. IMHO, anyway.”</p>
<p>I believe that the ACT, unlike College Board tests, allows you to choose which score reports to send to colleges. They would never know that she retook.</p>
<p>Stickershock, with my third kid, having a pretty good idea of my children’s relative abilities and accomplishments and knowing how the older two actually did score, I’d have to be pretty dim not to form some idea of how my last one would score on standardized tests. (Of course, I’m wrong, but that doesn’t mean it’s odd that I had an opinion.)</p>