I thought NL residency requires proof of insurance, btw.
I think it is obvious that the OP thought that someone on CC might possibly have that info–people here know about an astonishing range of things, and have had kids living abroad–and that she also wanted moral support.
It’s clear that some people on the thread get it, and some don’t.
This is all very frightening, fauxmaven. I hope you have at least a diagnosis soon!
@fauxmaven, I’m so hoping your daughter is feeling better and the doctors get to the bottom of what is going on. How hard this must be for you, with her so far away. Please keep us posted…I look forward to hearing she is recovering!
Okay @Fauxmaven,
I did a little digging and this is what I found. I am not an expert of any sort so please don’t sue me if this information turns out to be incorrect!
I combined site #1 with site #2 and confirmed in #3 and I think the answer is…
http://www.visitsweden.com/sweden/Sweden-Facts/How-you-do-things-in-Sweden/Health–medicare/
http://www.1177.se/Other-languages/Engelska/Regler-och-rattigheter/Patientavgifter/
https://sweden.se/society/health-care-in-sweden/
In other words, it sounds like your daughter may be on the hook for about $12 a day. Not bad, huh?
This matches what we experienced a few years ago when a kid we were traveling with had an accident and had to be hospitalized. My husband remembers the final bill as “something like twenty bucks.”
Sending good wishes for your daughter’s swift recovery.
But Sue, it also says, “If you come from another EU or EEA country, or Switzerland, you need a European Health Insurance Card to prove that you are entitled to emergency care at the ordinary fee. If you do not have a card, you may have to pay the entire cost.”
If she has “Netherlands residency,” Dutch sites indicate proof of insurance is needed for that or penalties can apply. This is part of why some kept saying the bf/dh should know more. Do they have insurance in the NL? (This fellow is/was a NL citizen, right? He should have some idea of his own home country’s regs.) Sorry if this is bad news.
Didn’t they get married?
@lookingforward, I assumed that if she was a resident of the Netherlands she had Dutch health insurance. Health insurance is required in the Netherlands.
https://www.government.nl/topics/health-insurance
I agree that the OP’s SIL can probably provide the best information but the OP may not want to bother him with financial questions at a time when he’s dealing with his wife’s health crisis.
And I agree with you that she “should” have insurance. It’s just that OP included “without insurance” in the title. So we go in some circles. Here’s hoping the kids did things as they are supposed to.
^I figured that referred to Swedish insurance, as in, “My daughter was admitted to a hospital in Sweden without Swedish insurance. Does the fact that she’s a resident of the Netherlands mean she has some kind of health coverage in Sweden?”
I may be wrong, but that’s how I read it.
It is of course possible that the couple doesn’t have Dutch health insurance, but as it’s required of all residents it would seem unlikely that they wouldn’t have it if they’ve lived in the Netherlands for any length of time.
I’m fairly sure that people in France on anything longer than a tourist visa have to fork over an insurance fee of, IIRC, about 300 euros. S had to do so in order to be allowed to remain on a long term student visa for a year. I would imagine that it is the same for most or all EU countries.
Hi- I’m back! Went to Sweden for a week for a visit. The first day was the worst-a fever of 104 that had lasted 5 days. She had ALOT of fluid around her heart, fluid in lungs and intestines! They kept her a week, and let her go today. She was much better, but on heavy steroids. She is going to the NL where her residency card and health card awaits. She will give the number to the hospital in Sweden and we will see what sort of bill we get. She is married to a Dutch man. I am happy she is spending the cold months in the NL. My BIL is a Director at NIH in Bethesda, and he has spoken to doctor in Sweden. Thanks to all.
She probably has Lupus.
She will follow up with specialist in Amsterdam.
I truly hope they are wrong and it is not lupus. It can be comforting, in some ways, to get a diagnosis but a lupus diagnosis marks the beginning of a lifelong “journey.”
But either way, I wish her well.
Yes, I am aware of the journey. The MD talked about it a lot.
I hope if it’s lupus it’s just a flare and it will calm down. I test positive for lupus, but have only experienced one flar that was not fun and have been fortunate that so far that was the only “bad time” and fortunately it only affected my joints for around 6 months. I test positive on ANA and Anti-dsDNA. When I had the flare I personally think I was just suffering from parvovirus B19 but waited to long to see the doctor to make that conclusive, so the positive lupus testings was a surprise. All the best, it is so awful to be young and battling something like this that happens out of the blue.
Glad you were able to be with your D. I hope if it IS lupus, she goes into permanent remission (or at least long term). I have a loved one who was diagnosed with lupus and had one initial bad flare and now has been in remission for decades.
Best of luck for her prompt and full recovery and a minimal hospital bill.
{{{Hugs}}} @fauxmaven. I don’t know much about lupus but it must be scary to hear that diagnosis and difficult with her living so far away. So glad you got to go spend time with her and hoping for the best possible outcome.
Thanks.
So glad you were able to go to Sweden and be with her! Having an advocate is a big plus! It’s hard to make decisions and ask questions when you are the one who is ill.
Hoping for a good recovery and, if it is lupus, good maintenance care.