Advice for a Wrestler

<p>“What do people think of Ursinus’ academic reputation? (he hopes to major in something like environmental science or natural resources)”</p>

<p>Higher rate of med. school admissions among folks thinking they are pre-med than any of the Ivies. I know they have an excellent business/accounting program (my stepsister-in-law is chair, and Dean of the College - or was); huge internship program for communications majors. Excellent Div. III women’s gymnastics as well.</p>

<p>Just want to say again how grateful I am to all. I’m encouraged that my son (who is taking the SAT as we speak, yikes) will find a spot on a team at a college that’s good for him. Amidst all these postings comes an e-mail from Brown U. wrestling coach asking for son’s transcript and a film. No idea why, other than son recently posted his stats on a local wrestling forum. Anyway, we sent the lackluster transcript, and now I guess I make a film at the wrestling club he attends–and transfer to DVD or what? Seems futile, given advice about Div. I here, but… On the colleges of distinction site, I saw SUNY at Oswego listed, which is DIV 3 wrestling. Looks like a beautiful place. Any thoughts?</p>

<p>Can’t hurt to try. :)</p>

<p>more info taken from a different forum, accuracy not vouched for–your son may know some of these guys. I also agree on inveestigating opportunities before relying on “our” advice here that its an uphill battle in certain cases. I always believe in applying and giving places a chance to say yes.</p>

<p>By the way, football is such a large sport and requires such numbers of players that it is “easier” IMO to be recruited for football than for wrestling. </p>

<p>New England Wrestling signings (from the intermat site)</p>

<p>Dinis Paiva (New Bedford, MA) Johnson & Wales 141/149
Mike Stanley (Natick, MA) Norwich 125
Ryan Goddu (New Bedford, MA) Boston University 133/141
Alex Vargas (Lawrence, MA) Bridgewater State 125
Gonzalo Sanz (Barnstable, MA) Bridgewater State 149
Josh Stuart ( Harpswell, ME) York (Pa.) 141
Brent MacDonald (Simsbury, CT) York (Pa.) 141
Steve Young (Boxboro, MA) Wheaton 141/149
Nick Avery (Foxboro, MA) Indiana 184/197
Eric DeWolfe (Hopkinton, MA) New Hampshire 149/157
Chris Parish (Portsmouth, RI) Wagner 157
Jimmy Hamel(Natick, MA) Buffalo 184/197
Matt Clement UMass-Amherst 141/149
Dave Nalette (Weathersfield, CT) Messiah 165
Adam Green (Plaistow, NH)New Hampshire 184/196
Frank Bertossi (Wallingford, CT)Elizabethtown 197
Frank Cammisa (Danbury, CT)Bridgewater State 149
Jeff Esposti (Danbury, CT)Bridgewater State 165
Ryan Garrity (Enfield, CT) Bridgewater State 125
Karl Gumpright (Pembroke, MA)Bridgewater State 125
Justin Camputaro (Madison, CT)Bridgewater State 157
Jack Attaya (Milton, MA) Bridgewater State 141
Paul Fleury (Brockton, MA) Bridgewater State 285
Walter Canuto (Brockton, MA) Bridgewater State 149
Matthew Shea (Weymouth, MA) Bridgewater State 285
Phil Mastro (Needham, MA) Bridgewater State 165
Garrett Knapik (West Springfield, MA) Limestone 141
Eric Morrill (Timberlane, NH) Edinboro 125
Corey Greene (Mt. Anthony Union, VT) Buffalo 125/133
Mike Cicchese (Western New England) UMass-Amherst
Will Vallee (Avon, CT) New Hampshire 174/184
Tom Wahle (Lincoln, ME) New Hampshire 197/285
Rob Flinn (Ithaca College) New Hampshire 133
James Glaude (Griswold, CT) Western New England 149
Casey Boyle (Loomis Chaffee, CT) UNC Greensboro 133
Dan Bloom (Sharon, MA) Wesleyan 125
Seth Rosen (Concord Academy, MA) Wesleyan 125
Shaun Toomey (Winnacunnett, NH)New Hampshire 149/157
Rollie Peterkin (Blair Academy, NJ) Penn 125
Nate Shippee (East Catholic, CT) Williams College 197
Bran Crudden (Windham, CT) Brown 165
Mike Powers (Loomis-Chaffee, CT) Bucknell 141/149
Jack Conroy (Westport, CT) Bucknell 133/141
Alan Hunte (Brookline, MA) Pittsburgh 197/285
Shawn Fendone (Central Catholic, MA) Edinboro 184
David Bernstein (Fairfield, CT) Bucknell 197</p>

<p>An addition to that- I think Victor Mocco is going to Columbia.</p>

<p>DadX–thanks for the list. One thing–why are New Hampshire and UMass-Amherst listed. Neither of those schools has wrestling. Does that mean the boys are signed up for football, maybe?</p>

<p>I ditto the Centennial Conference. McDaniel the old Western Maryland is a great small college for the student athlete wrestler. Forget about the NESCAC schools wrestling is dead in that group. Springfield is competitive but academically nothing special unless teacher-coach is the career in mind. This terrific sport is on the endangered species list of college sports similar to gymnastics. Find a school where the coach is dedicated and the program ensconced.</p>

<p>If your son could also play football as well as wrestle Wes Tech would be very interested. Otherwise his academic picture would be carefully scrutinized.</p>

<p>I think the reason those schools are there is that they have club teams in the NCWA.</p>

<p>See link.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ncwa.net/Teams/High%20School/By%20Conference/teams[/url]”>http://www.ncwa.net/Teams/High%20School/By%20Conference/teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Many schools (even some major ones) now have club teams resulting from decisions made by athletic and other administrators over the past 20 or so years. </p>

<p>Some schools even have teams in both NCAA and the NCWA. Most on the list are club only.</p>

<p>OK, thanks again to all. I’ll do some more research. I suppose wrestling in a club or intercollegiate wouldn’t make much difference to my son; he just wants to wrestle. But I didn’t know that schools would recruit for a club sport.</p>

<p>massmom</p>

<p>You are correct regarding recruiting. Its odd, the way sports end up sorting out. Michigan, for example, has a club lacrosse team (fortunately for the ACC and the other eastern powers, this has not become an important big ten sport).</p>

<p>I think your son will come out quite well. I’m impressed that he went to Baumgartner’s last year. Tell him to hit the books and don’t foreclose any option for himself, regardless of what we say about the odds. Give whatever your dreams are the chance to say yes to you. </p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Birch 45–I’ve tried to figure this out, but I’m not sure. What is Wes Tech? Is that Wesleyan University in Connecticut?</p>

<p>Massmom was puzzled:</p>

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<p>Wes Tech was a nickname applied to Wesleyan back when it was all-male, meant to denote its heavy orientation toward the sciences (four doctoral programs for a college of only 1500 students; site of the first academic building erected in America exclusively for the teaching of science) and large population of pre-meds. No one under the age of 50 refers to Wesleyan, which became co-ed in 1969, that way any more. :)</p>

<p>thanks, jw. who knew?</p>

<p>New England wrestling just isn’t that competitive. Due to title IX, college wrestling teams are few and far in between. I know several prep all american’s who are now wrestling dIII, DI schools wouldn’t even look at them. I assume you’d have to place at states, prep nationals, or a major tournament like beast of the east or fargo to be considered for most college wrestling teams. </p>

<p>15 years ago, a lot of schools would probably have had a spot for your son on their wrestling team. However, most programs have been cut because of the way schools are choosing to handle Title IX. Now, you have to be phenomenal to just get looked at.</p>

<p>massmom -</p>

<p>Not sure of your son’s academic interests, but if you want both wrestling (Div 2?) and great academics, he might consider Colorado School of Mines. My dh attended on a pretty generous wrestling scholarship back in the day. It is a specialized school…mostly engineering, some business, great grad programs. But a beautiful campus in a beautiful town (Golden, Co). (Wow…I sound like a recruiter…haha!)</p>

<p><a href=“http://athletics.mines.edu/Sports/Wrestling/index.htm[/url]”>http://athletics.mines.edu/Sports/Wrestling/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>thanks for the tip, ldmom. He hopes to major in some sort of environmental field, but not engineering. It would be hard to send him that far from home, though. we live in massachusetts.</p>

<p>massmom2 - I can relate. We are sending our firstborn to school 1200 miles from home this fall…eek! And Mines and Golden can be so enticing, you might have a hard time getting your son home! Twenty years ago, my cousin was set to attend Auburn and major in engineering just like his dad…and I sent him a Colorado School of Mines packet on a whim. Well, needless to say, he still lives in Golden. And his younger brother eventually joined him. My aunt and uncle remain unamused as they make those long treks from Georgia to Colorado to see their grandchildren! </p>

<p>Good luck in your search. :-)</p>

<p>I am quite late to respond to this post, BUT, I may offer some insight. I have two sons who wrestle in college, one at Ursinus and one at JHU. I would first advise your son to concentrate on just what type of college he is interested in. Both my sons were recruited to Wesleyan and Williams and Trinity and both rejected those schools as not being for them. I believe it important that your son visit and visit more schools. The reputation of the academic program where he will study is sometimes not in a location he would enjoy or doesnt mesh with his personal beliefs and views. My sons chocie for college was in the end a choice only they could make. </p>

<p>The wrestling program at UC, as the students call it, is remarkable. Four straight championships in the conference, a coach who knows the sport inside and out, best of all a truly rigourous academic environment. It is well known in the grad school world and the placement rate for top notch grad schools is remarkable. It is somewhat isolated, but folks it is not anywhere near as isolated as Williams, which never seems to get mentioned in these type of discussions. As to will he be able to compete there who knows. My son at UC has been the back up to a 3x all american yet his love for the sport has kept him going. This year he gets his chance. And as an aside, in College wrestling you compete at each tourny your team attends, not just the starters. Keeps the interest up I suspect. </p>

<p>JHU is a much different school. The wrestling program is not quite what UC is but I believe will be coming along nicely in future years. As for academics the reputation they enjoy speaks for itself. It is dead center Baltimore and you cant get much different than Collegeville. Again each child is different.</p>

<p>PS: the UC student is a neuroscience major- the JHU student International relations & economics</p>

<p>we are part of the NCWA and we do recruit. since title 9 has hurt wrestling so much, clubs have starting taking over alot and it is very competitive.</p>